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Started by Mozart35 REPLIES147 VIEWS· 06 Sept 2026, 01:00
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Mozart
MozartCoach50,531 posts
06 Sept 2026, 01:00
#1
06 Sept 2026, 01:00#1

At the match level….the ABs again out-gained us 373 meters to 270. They made 12 line breaks to our 5. They beat 32 tackles to our 21. We had to make 150 tackles to their 106. Once again they were the more creative team ball in hand. The difference was Carter missing two tackles which resulted in tries…two critical AB failures.

Then Love left 5 points on the table whereas we missed only one kick at goal. Sacha’s kicking today was encouraging. Then there were a series of NZ handling mistakes and Jordan’s disastrous dead ball kick, which led directly to the maul that defined the game. And NZ only secured two thirds of the kickoffs they received. The Boks pocketed all their kickoff receptions.

The territory and possession stats are interesting. The ABs had 57% of the possession, but only 47% of the territory. With the wind behind them in the second half there was a chance for Love and Roigard to pin the Boks in their half. Instead they persisted with ball in hand rugby from deep inside their half. It’s what has made them competitive but they should have focused on territory as well.

On an individual basis Dud Toit 4 of 17, Nortje 4 of 20, Hooker 5 of 16 and Dud Allende 3of 17 were statistically our worst defenders. These high missed tackle counts are now becoming a feature of Dud Toit’s game.

Eleven of 12 offloads were by NZ players.

Our ball-carrying did shift today….away from Dud Toit, who only carried twice and was used in a tighter role. No moonlighting on the wing. We used our backs more and it worked well. In prior tests some of that ball would have gone to more forward phases. When you have a Niagara of front foot ball, the backs should benefit.

Another big difference today was the kicking percentage 1 to 5.5 passes for the Boks vs 1 to 9.1 for the ABs. The penalties were even, which is surprising given how many penalties NZ seemed to be conceding at ruck and scrum.

This was a close match and the statistics don’t fully explain why NZ lost. The fact that they couldn’t use the wind effectively, demonstrated in the territory stat is perhaps the most interesting finding. The fact is it’s astonishing that a team so outgunned in the tight 5 could play us so close. As long as NZ is playing the likes of Newel in the front row, they will be under the gun. The difference in tight 5 talent has never been this stark.

Pakie
Captain18,305 posts
Pakie06 Sept 2026, 04:46

A little surprising that Hooker made and or missed that many. Rugbypass has him at 6 tackles completed out of 11. I'll look at the Hooker misses. He's a sound tackler, usually when he misses it's on the inside step as he's often tracking across but I can't remember that many instances yesterday.

The ABs definitely should have played more of a territory game in the second, they put themselves under so much pressure trying to run from everywhere and with everything, even backfoot ball.

Mozart
Coach50,531 posts
Mozart06 Sept 2026, 14:52

@Pakie Yes if the ABs simply kicked deep, with the wind against us the ball would have been kicked out with a big territorial gain. They didn’t have to run from well inside their half risking turnovers. They could have been running from 40 metres out or less…..tactical mistake.

I guessing most of Hooker’s missed tackles were from being stepped, following up at pace.

Deus Ex Lemur
Pro2,486 posts
Deus Ex Lemur06 Sept 2026, 16:04

@Mozart I recall the All Blacks making this mistake in 2009, and they addressed it in 2010. How quickly the tables can turn.

bobbok
bobbokCaptain10,632 posts
06 Sept 2026, 01:14
#3
06 Sept 2026, 01:14#3

Full-time! South Africa 29-24

South Africa take the home-leg of the series 2-1!

An unreal game. A game worthy of the title of Rugby’s Greatest Rivalry. It had everything. If you’re a fan of this sport – even if you’re not – this game had something for you.

Four tries each, South Africa’s second half display will be spoken about for years to come.

bobbok
bobbokCaptain10,632 posts
06 Sept 2026, 04:00
#7
06 Sept 2026, 04:00#7

Malcolm Marx: The reigning World Rugby Player of the Year produced a masterclass in hooker play. He thumped the Soweto turf when he celebrated an outrageous maul try and the fact that his name was credited with the five points was just reward for the brilliance he produced prior. His lineout darts were world-class, his breakdown work otherworldly, and he was the focal point of a brutally effective Bok scrum. A world-class performance from a world-class player. He got a standing ovation when he left the pitch and deserved it. 9

Plum
PlumCaptain22,055 posts
06 Sept 2026, 09:00
#8
06 Sept 2026, 09:00#8

By far the best game of rugby in a long time. Lots of mistakes from both sides, but I can't recall a game that depleted my adrenaline as much as this one in recent times.

The maul try, the sequence with Ox collecting it with fingertips and passing to Manie and the sudden score from nowhere by Jessie. Just so many moments where, as a Bok fan anyway, one was just absolutely rushing.

Was so crazy I barely found time to comment on the match thread.

I needed a good hour to calm down after he game.

Rooinek
RooinekCaptain18,826 posts
06 Sept 2026, 09:46
#9
06 Sept 2026, 09:46#9

The usual biased garbage from Mozart.

Finding every little fault he can from the players he hates while ignoring the mistakes of the players he adores.

Reading this rubbish you'd think that New Zealand would have won this game easily if it wasn't for Leroy Carter, you'd think Pieter-Steph du Toit is a consistently weak tackler and you'd be blissfully unaware that Eben Etzebth was our joint worst player (according to the Planet Rugby rankings which Mozart uses as a reference to try denigrate PSdT).

No mention of Eben's knock-on that cost us a try, the penalty he gave away, the improvement in the side when he went off early in the second half or him being sat on his arse by Quinn Tupaea . . . just the usual trashing of PSdT at every opportunity.

Mozart, we know you're a bit angry that Rassie's team won the match, but in future, why don't you save yourself a lot of typing and just say "same again" after every match?

We'd all know exactly what you mean, you wouldn't have to type it all up and we wouldn't have to read the same biased and ignorant nonsense after every game.

A win-win for everyone, wouldn't you say?

Here's the only important stat . . . Springboks 2, New Zealand 1. The rest don't matter.

Bokke!!!

DbDraad
Captain26,964 posts
DbDraad07 Sept 2026, 00:14

@Deus Ex Lemur weak defending LOL

BE
Beeno1Captain40,395 posts
06 Sept 2026, 10:26
#10
06 Sept 2026, 10:26#10

Per Dud Mozzie - On an individual basis Dud Toit 4 of 17, Nortje 4 of 20, Hooker 5 of 16 and Dud Allende 3of 17 were statistically our worst defenders. These high missed tackle counts are now becoming a feature of Dud Toit’s game

Has it occurred to Mozzie that the more attempts at tackles, even very difficult ones, the more misses there will be. If you attempt one tackle and make it you are at 100%.
DUD Mozzies long nose is severely out of joint because for some weird reason he hates Du Toit and has been finding fault with him year after dismal year. With Du Toit winning two R
World rugby player of the year awards the DUD is incensed insisting he is right and everybody else is wrong. PSDT is universally admired as one of rugby's greatest number 7 if not the greatest. That is how far out the DUD is. DItto re Rassie,
Zip it please DUD its all such tiresome repetitive drivel!

Mozart
Coach50,531 posts
Mozart06 Sept 2026, 14:00

Has it occurred to me the more tackles you attempt, the more you’ll miss. Er yes….that’s why when I give the missed tackles I also provide the tackles attempted. Through all three tests DudToit has been missing a quarter to a third of his tackles. Paint it any way you like ….that’s poor tackling.

As for his ball in hand prowess…..it’s non existent. Yet yesterday Planet Rugby wrote this:

‘7 Pieter-Steph du Toit: Massive in the carry, busy in defence and made great decisions with the ball in hand. A key cog in a lineout that operated wonderfully too. 7’

He carried the ball twice and in 2 carries he was’ massive in the carry and made great decisions’…..it’s nonsense. And so I correct the nonsense. He was, however, good in the lineouts and has been all series. The tackle stats don’t reflect his inability to even get into position to tackle many times. As a loosie his defense is now pretty marginal.

But don’t concern yourself, there are plenty of those who also just want to be cheer leaders, join them and leave the analytical stuff to those who enjoy being objective.

Deus Ex Lemur
Deus Ex LemurPro2,486 posts
06 Sept 2026, 10:45
#11
06 Sept 2026, 10:45#11

Poor reads, poor mobility, and a lack of raw physicality. Those are the reasons for his historically poor defending.

Deus Ex Lemur
Pro2,486 posts
Deus Ex Lemur06 Sept 2026, 18:55

@DbDraad The ball is in your court. Any test, any time.

DbDraad
Captain26,964 posts
DbDraad06 Sept 2026, 19:13

@Deus Einäugige The previous world cup final and a host of other big matches....in the country of the blind...een oog is koning...

DbDraad
DbDraadCaptain26,964 posts
06 Sept 2026, 16:21
#12
06 Sept 2026, 16:21#12

Just another example that dominance in the general stats that's published for a match does not paint the complete picture...in fact, in close matches it happen frequently that the team winning the general stats lose on the scoreboard... there's no stat to measure grit and determination...mental strength under pressure...spirit...gees...

Mozart
Coach50,531 posts
Mozart06 Sept 2026, 14:45

Agreed they are just partial insights. But tied at the half with a strong wind at their backs for the second half NZ were in the better position. Having been tactically astute in all three matches to that point…how they gave up that advantage is an interesting question.

DbDraad
Captain26,964 posts
DbDraad06 Sept 2026, 18:57

@Mozart ...it would be interesting to figure out the other measurables which could explain the victory...some more variables to give better context...

BE
Beeno1Captain40,395 posts
06 Sept 2026, 19:35
#13
06 Sept 2026, 19:35#13

Deus you have to be the most absurd nutter posting on this board. ahead of even the DUD Mozzie.

Deus Ex Lemur
Pro2,486 posts
Deus Ex Lemur06 Sept 2026, 18:57

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Mozart
MozartCoach50,531 posts
06 Sept 2026, 22:36
#14
06 Sept 2026, 22:36#14

No that’s probably you HasBeen, loony as a fruitcake

Plum
PlumCaptain22,055 posts
07 Sept 2026, 00:08
#15
07 Sept 2026, 00:08#15

Is it unanimous at this point that PSDT is a spent force?

After these three games I'm struggling to convince my self that anyone of Cam, Roos or Elrigh couldn't provide more than Steph.

Of course his experience counts for something, but there is a cut off point and where you're a 7 that can't make ground in contact anymore then I think you're just about there.

I also think it's pretty childish to treat a point like the above as though it's some kind of betrayal. Everybody gets to a point where the body isn't there anymore. I think Steph is there is there now.

The other oldies still seem okay though.

DbDraad
Captain26,964 posts
DbDraad06 Sept 2026, 23:08

He'll be MOM in on of our big matches in the RWC...spent force? Stay off the psychedelics.😇😈

SA
Saffolk Captain30,928 posts
07 Sept 2026, 01:52
#16
07 Sept 2026, 01:52#16

Watched that game again - we were definitely the better side. Some of the Kiwi tries had so much luck going their way. Kick aheads landing in the hands of the Kiwi’s, the Savea and Jordan tries that had luck going their way

All series the Kiwi’s have definitely had the bounce of the ball in their favour

As always stats provide no context, evidenced by the fact that viewing the game confirms the Boks were the better side on the day

As for PSDT, he had a good game.

Spent forces are Reinach and Fourie

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