It's accountability time for the Mamparas.

The chief mampara who wins this title hands down and has earned over a long period - ever since the time he started slagging off Rassie when Rassie was player coach of the Cheetahs is of course the very DUD Mozzie followed by Mamparas Plonker Pakster and Daft Deus.
I have not yet watched the match but will do so today. I did look at a number of You Tubers including a number of kiwi You Tubers who universally admitted the Boks were the better side.
Boks who got big plaudits were Eben and Hanekom. In the back it was Morne van den Berg, Allende and Arendse.
Of course all the other Books played well.
So now we have a Bok side in probably the most successful period in Bok history. When I say this recall how often Rassie has be smeared and undermined by these three halfwits.
Dear Daft Deus crusade again Allende who he called a physically weak center after our second world cup win. This was of course utter nonsense on a par with all DUD Mozzie's drivel echoed of course by Plonker Pakster.
Sane posters like myself who have fully supported Rassie, Allende and Du Toit have been completely and utterly vindicated. These three rodents have mad their names mud. Bwahahahahaha.
Their wise assessments, all their fault finding, all their we know better drivel stands today in ruins.
It's time for an abject apology Mamparas. No if and buts please. It's long overdue.
Bye the way guess who predicted a 15 point win. Yes yours truly. I think Plumpster went for a 14 point win so well done to him.
It's quite clear that Rassie outsmarted Renee. Congrats to this GREATEST OF ALL BOK Coaches and the best coach in world rugby. The record speaks for itself Mamparas.
I understand tbe Boks played some good running rugby as the have done repeatedly this year. The oaks whining about the Argentina match and who said the Boks couldn't attack via the backs are left red faced by the facts. Hahahahaha.
It's tough being a faux Bok supporter all these years and getting proven wrong again and again. But of course they never learn.
It's hard to admit to such monumental blunders. Embarrassing to be unmasked etc
It would be nice to turn over a new leaf cut out the anti Rassie/Bok BS but how likely is that. DUD Mozxie's take on the matter was better than usual so who knows, it's a remote chance but not impossible.

@Beeno1 I must confess, this is magnificent even by your standards.

You've established an accountability tribunal, handed down the verdict, demanded abject apologies from the condemned, proclaimed Rassie's tactical masterclass and declared several individual performances vindicated — before actually watching the game.

High Priest Beeno has apparently progressed beyond the requirement for earthly evidence altogether. 😂

The slight difficulty for your prosecution is that I predicted a Bok victory. I said beforehand that if they reproduced the aggression and physical authority of the first half of the opening Test, they could steamroll this All Black side. My reservations concerned the vulnerabilities within the team and whether they could sustain that level without creating problems for themselves.

They won by considerably more than I predicted, and full credit to them for doing so. Where the performance warrants praise, I'll happily give it. But a large winning margin doesn't magically settle every argument concerning individual players, selection or the shortcomings that were evident during the series.

Indeed, I think I'll exercise my right to remain unrepentant until the learned chairman of the Accountability Committee has at least watched the evidence.

Do come back after the match, Father Beeno. We can begin the inquisition properly then.

Deus you are not only the most biased nutjob on the board but also not the sharpest pencil in the box. My case is built upon years of drivel posted by our resident mamparas the worst of whom are the very DUD Mozzie , secondly yourself Daft Deus and thirdly the Plodding Plonker Pakster,
I have watched the match and Rassie was the clear winner, Du Toit had a fine stint and scored a great powerful try and Allende was superb. So zero chages from my side.
Best sit down quietly and consider how you could avoid making a complete mampara of yourself in the future. Bwahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha

Try to process this assessment HasBeen. Nobody on this Board expected this NZ team to beat us at home. The fact that it was closer than most thought is a bit sobering.

Mozart
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05 Jul 2026 at 16:31
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The substitute French team ran them very close and scored a raft of tries. I think it’s fair to say the AB defense was pretty porous….with Jalibert ripping them apart several times. Jordan looked less dangerous back on the wing and the centers still don’t look like the answer. McKenzie looked like McKenzie.

To be frank they looked worse than the Razor teams with the defensive weaknesses in those teams highlighted by Wellington, still very much in evidence. One commentator said something like that, but was quickly contradicted. It was the rebirth of NZ rugby with myths and fireworks before the game

Where I saw some progress was in the ruck intensity, French fetchers were simply blown off the ball time and again. But this was disappointing overall. No new ideas, and except for young Love who made 2 fine breaks, no new talent of note. Is this Oupa coaching team really going to turn around NZ rugby

Beensie wants to be surrounded by cheerleaders like himself and yes-men like Keo and Zels.

Just some points of discussion brought up by Mampara Plodding Pakster:

PSDT's defense. I expressed concern after the games against England and Scotland about his defense while Beensie's yes-man Keo propped up some bullshit stat about him missing only one tackle in those two games, to Beensie's glee. PSDT ended up missing just about a third of his tackles against the ABs, one of if not the highest miss ratio in the series for the Boks. So was that "slagging off" or valid observation from the mampara? The cheerleader will say the former, the balanced observer the latter. Just in Saturday's test a wrong read by PSDT in the red zone has him shooting out of line and creating the gap for Taylor's try.

After the first test I harshly criticized the Boks employing the dumb scrumming for penalty tactic that destroyed Ireland and got the suits at World Rugby's panties in a knot. It literally lost us the game as it created what was acknowledged universally by pundits as the turning point moment that let the ABs back into a game we should have had buried by then. Second test, Boks started using our dominant set piece to actually launch plays from, wa-la, victory. Valid criticism? I believe so.

We have frequently bemoaned our brilliant wings being used as kick chasers and feeding off scraps. We want a more complete game that involves these game breakers. On Saturday Arendse got a ton of ball and ripped the ABs apart. Mampara point vindicated - why do we regularly starve these weapons of destruction of attacking ball when it's clear we are more than capable of getting the ball to them.

But Beensie will be happy to note we were all swinging our pom-poms and having a blast between 11pm and 1am Saturday night despite being such rabid anti-Boks. It was the strangest thing.

"McKenzie looked like McKenzie."

I actually can't with this guy. I mean, what is DMac actually?

Are you really telling me that the ABs don't have a 15 that is capable of more than just a hand in the odd try? Perhaps I'm biased because I've never like him, but what does he actually do? He has zero highball game, is tiny, thinks territory is for "other people" and feels that running from everywhere always is his only duty.

Jordan is pretty much the same but at least he has a high strike rate to lean on.

Can you imagine a universe where Dmac gets into the Boks? I'm sure Cheslin and Arendse weigh less than he does but they are warriors. You actually see Arendse contesting rucks for goodness sake. Both of them are above average threats under Hugh balls and it's very rare you see them missing tackles. See Cheslin's broken jaw for evidence of what he'll do for his team.

Dmac might be the nicest chap on earth but his style of play is a bad apple. You look back at Ben Smith and you have to wonder how they have settled for this poser and how on earth he has this many caps.

I'm not even gonna ask for a comparison between Dmac and Willemse because that's laughable.

Indeed, Beensie has to accept that this is a rugby board and people want to do more than come here to kneel at the altar or Rassie.

Beeno, I would actually dare you to find posts or opinions that are overboard or criticising of the Boks without being rooted in some logic.

The very things we often complain about are later identified as problems and when remedied the difference is noticeable. See Pakster mentioning how Arendse got more ball on Saturday and caused the ABs all sorts of problems. Explain to me how that does not vindicate what we have been saying for ages now about needing to set our backs loose more often?

You might not agree, Beeno, and you might simply be looking at results, but that doesn't mean that our protestations are wrong or rooted in dislike for the Boks.

I've lately been saying that PSDT looks done. Are you really gonna tell me that he can still run somebody over? The guy's body is destroyed. Those hundred tests have come at a price and he's not the same guy he was three years ago. You can clearly see how he's struggling to bring his share of dominance to the pack. Again, as Paks says, look at his tackle stats. You can also look at his carries and see how he very rarely makes ground.

If anything, you should thank us for bribing some balance to the Baird because if all we did was kneel and light incense, how boring would this place be?

Greatest Rivalry swagger showed South Africa will take some beating at World Cup

All Blacks were valiant in 3-1 series defeat but Springboks sent another warning to rest of the world in Baltimore

the Guardian

Sound like Beeno is a liberal, only wants to listen to those that align with his world view and condemn the rest that may have a diversity in thought. Off to the gulag for the rest to go work in labour camps.

Funny that he didn't watch the game, but we won.

Rugby is in a funny place right now. Only Rassie seem to put test rugby first and understand the demand of the modern game.

Some estimate that NZ and SA both made $20m from this game alone and not purely on seats sold but sponsorship that showed up to advertise in the game. None the less, it was a great game, some heart stopping and hair pulling as well as the face palm moments.

We had some great players like our pack, Japser just getting front foot ball and bashing players over and our backs still struggling to mark their man, but that is down to defensive patterns. Holding NZ out for 30 phases, but then came unstuck when Golden boy couldn't tackle Jordan and got dragged 10 meters for him to score.

I still believe we should not have lost the 1st test. Journo and media overhyping the game.

My real fear is that we are peaking between world cups and come unstuck next year when the old bodies can no longer keep up because they thought they could still make the World Cup.

This includes the elder statesmen and if they can last 8 weeks.

at the top of the list are players like

Deon Fourie, nearly 40!!!
Eben, still produces but doesn't have the grunt
Kolisi, 40 min player and getting less, more ham string pulls these days
PSDT, player running past him and getting stripped of the ball by a 9
Dud, seem to have go his spring back, but can he last, will he last, does he have another 18 months left in the tank.
Jessica, defence is creaking a bit and got exposed despite the journo's telling us otherwise.
Reinach, never seem to reach his potential, time to pass him on as he is 37 already or close.
Lood, injury and card prone.
AE, very unlucky, to be 3 years younger than Dud and should have been his time now.
My real fear is do we have like for like replacement in terms of experience and skill and creating their own legacy.

Short answer, no

Lots of words, deflections, excuses, justifications and of course amnesia.
However, the problem is that for almost a DECADE Rassie, Du Toit, Allende and the Boks have been constantly critisised, belittled, smeared and very LITTLE credit given. The bias was there for all to see. DUD Du Toit l, Dud Allende Luckrassie or whatever.. We only win because the opposition was weak, we were lucky, our style of rugby is horrible not different from the abs.
It's is the consistent bias Mamparas that the record reflects. It's the whining and complaining all in a period of unprecented success. You gave yourselves away.
But it's also the EXTENT of your BLUNDERS in Judgement Mamparas. Rassie is acknowledge by everybody barring a few nutjobs as a great coach. Du Toit is acknowledge as a great number seven and many think him the best ever winning as he did two World player of the year awards. Allende is acknowledged as a fine test center and at over a 100 caps is a Bok great.
These are massive blunders Mamparas..
This attitude HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS.
Then one has to mention again that Daft Deus had a huge meltdown after Rassie's second world cup win. DUD Mossie also had a meltdown. There was no joy in the win from these two arch Mamparas. They knew all their carping and sniping had crashed and burned. Rassie had made full blown Mamparas of them. So what did they do. Well Daft Deus after exposing himself as he had flounced off and only appeared more than two year later. DUD Mozzie doubled down hoping something would happen to justify his nonsensical takes. But it only elevated him to the role of chief Mampara.
Now the slight of hand is to say how can the horrible Beeno make these comments if he hasn't watched the 4th test. Bwahahahahaha How dumb do you get.
Some Mamparas are are now in a position known as "Coping" You pretend to yourself and other the past didn't happen or you were misunderstood, you deflect etc. Hahahahaha.
I think deep down the Mamparas know they got it a horribly wrong. DUD Mozzie started out critizing Rassie when Rassie was player coach of Free State and went on to win two Currie Cups one shared with Bulls, an amazing achievement. I warned the DUD that Rassie looked to be a very astute coach. Not non Rassie was some sort of nutjob sitting on a roof with lights. That's all the DUD could see. And he doubled down and the rest is history.
King or thinks I am a Liberal. How ignorant do you get! I support President Trump, Marine Le Pen, THE AFD and of course One Nation in Australia. Hahahahahahaha. Again the degree of ignorance is monumental.

Now after almost a decade of this drivel maybe the Mamparas have had enough of their long noses being rubbed in it and making complete Mamparas of themselves. There is a way out Mamparas. You could Apologies. Let uncle Beeno help.
I DUD Mozzie ( Daft Deus, Plodding Plonker Pakster etc) feel compelled by my seared cinsince to humply apologies to the upstanding genuine Bok supporters on the board for all the total drivel I have posted on the board about the Boks, Rassie, Du Toit and Aende in particular. I acknoedge from the botyom of my heart that I have been terribly wrong and my monumental blunders arise from my overweening pride and refusal to acknowledge I was wrong. This led me down a very dark, ong weary rabbit hole. I am forever thankful to insightful astute Beeno for persevering with me and shining a light so I could see at last what a utter mampara I have been for so long.
I DUD Mozzie hereby undertake to change, to repent of my ways and try as hard as I can to be truthful and give Rassie his dues as the greatest coach we have ever had. I will acknowledge the greatness of Du Toit and tbe excellence of Allende.
Lastly I admit if I had listened to Beeno I would not have become such a monumental MAMPARA. Thank you Beeno and be assured I will be paying close attention to all you post as it could save me from making such gigantic blunders in future!
Signed a contrite and humbled DUD Mozzie.
MAMPARAS this is a very brief apology, skeletal if you like and you can build on it. You know what you said and the extent of you failings etc.
It's time!

I like calling Damian De Allende Dud, especially when he served up a bunch of Duds. Only the last two tests has he really come to fore and was amazing on Saturday, like he used to play back in 2015, before he became a cart horse.

But unfortunately the same thing happened to Jean De Villiers, just became a battering ram.

Bundi Aki is probably one of those type that allows backlines to run off, he may not be flashy but he sure made an impact, had good hands, can draw players in allow outside backs to feed off the gaps he creates. Dud Never did that, now he is showing that.

So, for now his Dud. I hate that Zalem Nel calls him Doogs,

Wrong again King of corn.
I posted a video of Allende doing great things. If you had taken the trouble to view the video you would not be making these remarks.
Allende is a great all round center. Can drive the ball up. Can defend even against forwards. Great pass, nice grubber, nice step, nice hand off. He also had enough pace so they played him on the wing at times.
Hence his 100 plus Bok test caps and practically universal acclaim.
Unfortunately thanks to the antics of certain Mamparas others have been misled. A little echo chamber reinforcing error. That why I like to bring the perspectives of what the Rugby World is thinking showing how utterly out of touch with reality the Mamparas are. Hahahahahaha.
Man what a hilarious bunch of Mamparas we have operating here. This board is unique.

Daft Deus who are so flawed you are a full on crackpot. Get working on your abject apology. You know it's the right thing to do!

Dont forget about your abject apologies Mamparas. You know it's the right thing to do. You will feel so much better and can thank me afterwards!!!

Dud Allende 40 runs in the 4 tests….not one clean break, case closed.

The thing that is closed DUD is your wee mind. No light penetrates and there is an immunity to evidence.😂😂😂

The bashers are still bashing. Nothing will ever change their minds. Even if the Boks win another RWC these haters will still be spewing their anti-Rassie, anti-PSdT and anti-DDA bile.

They just can't find it in them to admit they backed the wrong horse(s).

LMAO!

I love the fact that the bashers have taken no joy from the greatest era in Springbok rugby.

Instead of celebrating each win, these sad losers are running as fast as they can to their keyboards to tell us how DDA should have passed or PSdT missed a tackle or how Rassie got lucky.

The rest of us are high-fiving, cheering and celebrating. Life is good . . . for some!

LMAO!

Rooitwit you are exactly right. I said as much myself. Here we have what many are saying is the greatest period in Bok history with our greatest coach, one of the greatest number 7s to play the game and a centurion center etc etc and these nutters keep moaning and complaining and belittling the coach, the team and individual players.
They do this day in and day out and say its just objective criticism. Bwahahahahahahahahaha. The level of their collective judgment should see the crazies get confined to a loonie bin! Hahahahhahahahahahaha but then much of the comedy on the board would end! Hilarious stuff from the Mamparas!

I think there is something that emerged form the 4th game which we've perhaps all missed.

The Boks became far more difficult to play against when they mixed it up.

And if you think about it, that's what likely could have been the difference in the end.

The ABs didn't change anything. They ran and ran in all four games.

The Boks waited until the 4th game to switch things up and balance their game out and I think that baffled the Kiwis. From the kickoff, the Boks suddenly ran out of their 22 and it caught the ABs off guard. The scrum where MVB suddenly went down the blind and which would normally have been and up and under. Manie choosing to run from the 22 in the second half. There were a few more instances, but those switch-ups worked out every time because the ABs expected something else.

Whether that means there is value in always playing a balanced game or whether it means that now and then the Boks can count on the switch up to gain momentum, the conclusion has to be that a measure of balance is valuable.

The ABs had no balance. We knew exactly what they wanted to do from game one to game four and nothing changed throughout.

Tactically, I think that was very smart from the Boks and Rennie was ultimately schooled.

And I think that it does prove that calling for more balance in the Bok game isn't a crazy request.