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Not so Fassi

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Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Mar 2020, 00:24
#41
20 Mar 2020, 00:24#41
Just read this on Fassi Fassis has made the second-most running metres (619) in the tournament. He is ranked second for tackle busts (22) and fourth for linebreaks (eight). Those stats highlight his strength as well as ability to identify the weak points in an opposition defence. Fassi has scored three tries and made three try-assists to date. Over the course of the year, it’s been plain to see how much Fassi has grown in other areas, and why he may feature for the Springboks in July – if those Tests against Scotland and Georgia aren’t cancelled or postponed due to the coronavirus.
sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,449 posts
20 Mar 2020, 00:58
#42
20 Mar 2020, 00:58#42
Fassi is thin but he is tall and deceptively strong . A bit like a Werner Greef, Pieter Rossouw or Honniball
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2020, 01:46
#43
20 Mar 2020, 01:46#43

Which is why he was run over twice for tries last Saturday.

SH
ShezzaPro2,471 posts
20 Mar 2020, 03:35
#44
20 Mar 2020, 03:35#44
As controversial as it may be I see a lot of Folau in him potentially, amongst his own flair. I don't want him to be thrown to the wolves just yet, let him get used to defending at fullback and learn. 
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2020, 03:52
#45
20 Mar 2020, 03:52#45

I see more of Christian Cullen.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Mar 2020, 04:54
#46
20 Mar 2020, 04:54#46
Rubbish he never got run over once
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2020, 18:23
#47
20 Mar 2020, 18:23#47

Right..... he never got run over once...he got run over twice.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Mar 2020, 18:30
#48
20 Mar 2020, 18:30#48
Ok Moz point to those two times please and I’ll go have a look I still have the game recorded as I don’t recall him getting run over at all
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2020, 21:08
#49
20 Mar 2020, 21:08#49

Look at the two Reds tries....one out on the wing where he should have got the guy into touch, and another closer to the poles.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2020, 22:15
#50
20 Mar 2020, 22:15#50

"Look at the two Reds tries....one out on the wing where he should have got the guy into touch, and another closer to the poles."

Hmmm . . . well, firstly the Reds scored 3 tries but let's see now . . . take a look at the clip below . . .


Now, the first Reds try happens at 1.30 in that clip and Aphelele Fassi makes his tackle on James O'Connor. The ball gets to Henry Speight who scores with Fassi nowhere in sight. Not sure how anyone but a rugby noob could say that Fassi was run over.

The second Reds try happens at 3.25 in the clip when Tate McDermott runs through the Sharks forward pack to score with Fassi not even in the shot. If he was run over then only the rugby noob saw it . . . or should I say, imagined it.

The 3rd and final Reds try happens at 5.10 and comes from a rolling maul. It's very hard to tell if Fassi gets "run over" because once again, he's not involved in any way and not even in the picture.

I suspect we're dealing with a complete rugby noob who has taken an instant dislike to the excellent Aphelel Fassi and has started making up lies and bullshit about Fassi in the same way that he does with World Rugby's Player of the Year Pieter-Steph du Toit.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2020, 22:40
#51
20 Mar 2020, 22:40#51
"Which is why he was run over twice for tries last Saturday."
Okay, let's be kind and assume that Moffie meant the "Jaguares" but typed "Reds" instead. It's either the most miraculously clumsy and coincidental typo of all time or else the doddering old fool and embarrassing rugby noob had already smashed half of his pink gin. 

Okay, so giving Moffie the benefit of the doubt and forgiving his senility and/or drunken state . . . same drill . . . here's the clip . . .


Once again, the Jaguares scored 3 tries, not the 2 that the biased and stupid rugby noob claims . . . but we'll address all three . . .
The first Jaguares try happens at 1.53 in the clip. Bonilla kicks across field to Moroni who gathers on the line and drops to the ground to score. Fassi gets to his man but can do nothing to prevent the try and is not "run over" by any stretch of the imagination.
The second Jaguares try happens at 3.29 in the clip. Esterhuizen and Am both rush too quickly and Tuculet gets the ball in acres of space. The only Sharks player who can possibly get close to him is Fassi having to break to his right to cover the missing centres and he manages to stretch and get a hand to Tuculet who is already diving for the line. Again, only a rugby noob who'd never played even 1 minute of a rugby match would blame Fassi for that try or claim he got "run over".
The 3rd and final Jaguares try happens at 4.39 in the clip when Cancelliere beats a rather weak tackle from Curwin Bosch to score, with Fassi nowhere in sight and not even in the picture.
So no change whether the doddering old fossil is talking about the Reds game or the Jaguares . . . we're still dealing with a stupid, spiteful and childish rugby noob desperately looking for faults in a fine rugby player and an exciting prospect.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:00
#52
20 Mar 2020, 23:00#52
So Moz where is Fassi being run over? With the first Reds try Fassi hammers O’Connor and it’s Mvovo who fails to get Speight into touch. I really just don’t get your point? Here we have a bright shinning light in our game - a really, really exciting talent and all you can do is pick holes in the kid, holes that just as I originally thought don’t exist Why Moz, what is the point, what are you trying to achieve Is Fassi now forever going to be on your list, you know the list I’m on about - the one that contains probably 80% of our players and of course our current coach
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:08
#53
20 Mar 2020, 23:08#53

‘Gets to his man but can do nothing’....hahaha, sure. Get’s to his man is the only true thing about that statement. Missing is ‘he gets to his man right on the sideline’ and couldn’t even nudge him into touch. 

Look as a Spies, Watson, Lambie, Deysel groupie I suggest you refrain from discussing the merits of rugby players...you fat, inebriated old coot.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:11
#54
20 Mar 2020, 23:11#54
"Why Moz, what is the point, what are you trying to achieve"
Here's a clue, Dave . . . remember the reason he gave you for why he left SA? The demographic that he hated and wished there was a final solution for?
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:19
#55
20 Mar 2020, 23:19#55
So Moffie, tell us . . . which minute of which clip does Fassi get "run over"? At the very least can we establish which game you're talking about because you've said the Reds and you've said last Saturday and we know they're mutually exclusive.
Oh and if you're not lying through your rotting yellow teeth then it's 2 specific timestamps we require. You did say he got run over twice, right?
LMAO!
Oh and please don't use the Moroni try as an example, chump. By your own admission Fassi wasn't run over and you feel he should have (miraculously) run Moroni over.


SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:25
#56
20 Mar 2020, 23:25#56
I’m still trying to find Fassi being run over - not even close
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:28
#57
20 Mar 2020, 23:28#57

Sorry it’s the Jaguares as mentioned in the first post on the string and it is Fassi who runs across looking up at the ball, never focuses on the open Carreras. So rather than tackling him he runs past him. The Bargie holds the ball awkwardly high, but no matter he just gets a nice back rub.

The second try is equally inept....the Sharks line rushes up and is beaten by a wide pass. Fassi is floating around marking nobody, but tries to come back to stop the try. He hits the try scorer five metres out with a from behind tackle....but goes too high and Tuculet bursts through his tackle

The tackle attempt was similar but easier than the tackle in the NZ WC game which many on here blamed on Mostert....a lock against a back.


RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:31
#58
20 Mar 2020, 23:31#58

Waaaaaaaaahahahahahaha!

And he wonders why he's regarded as a rugby noob in these parts!

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:32
#59
20 Mar 2020, 23:32#59

And here are the  stats showing his two missed tackles. Game, set and match:

 SHARKTCTMTLWA FassiFB0420
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:33
#60
20 Mar 2020, 23:33#60

Down goes the fat Wallie!

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:33
#61
20 Mar 2020, 23:33#61

Oh, so now it's become "missed tackles" rather than being "run over"?

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:34
#62
20 Mar 2020, 23:34#62
Down goes that drunken, self-important and stupid old fool!
LMAO!
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:38
#63
20 Mar 2020, 23:38#63

So you concede they were missed tackles.....feeble ones....good enough for me. Two try conceding, feeble, missed tackles. Point established.

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:44
#64
20 Mar 2020, 23:44#64

No, I conceded nothing of the sort. Just remarking on your sudden switch from "run over" to "missed tackles".

Most people who have any knowledge or appreciation of the game know that they're not the same thing.

So, Moffie, just so we're all clear, are you retracting your laughably stupid and biased claim that Fassi got "run over" twice against the Jaguares . . . or the Reds in case you want to flip-flop back to that game because you're too drunk to know which game you're talking about?

Just a simple "yes" or "no". That's all.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:52
#65
20 Mar 2020, 23:52#65
Damn right Fassi had his eye on the ball it’s what you need to do. There is NOTHING Fassi could have done to stop that try, he neither missed a tackle or got run over As for the other try the Argie was already past Fassi and hands him off from behind to go over - no being run over or missing a tackle front on Moz you are speaking utter shit re Fassi and if he does miss one tackle in all those clips it hardly detracts from all the brilliant stuff he has done with ball in hand Every player misses tackles and it would be an issue if he was actually being run over. The kid is simply brilliant with ball in hand, has a great boot on him and is solid in defence He is going to be a great Bok
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
20 Mar 2020, 23:55
#66
20 Mar 2020, 23:55#66
Dave, before we move on to whether the tackles were missed or not, let's clear up the first claim . . . that Fassi was "run over" twice in the game. 
Let's see if the cowardly old liar can man up for once and admit he was wrong about that claim before giving him an out by shifting the discussion to whether tackles were missed or not.
For now he seems to have taken the deep dive.
LMAO!
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Mar 2020, 00:23
#67
21 Mar 2020, 00:23#67
The deep . . .
. . . deep . . .
. . . dive!
LMAO!
I'm off to bed. Will check tomorrow morning to see if Moffie can admit that he has egg all over his stupid face or I need to add another "deep" to that sequence.
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Mar 2020, 00:53
#68
21 Mar 2020, 00:53#68

I’m just struggling to understand the point in picking holes in one of our bright young talents 

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Mar 2020, 01:36
#69
21 Mar 2020, 01:36#69
Disagree he could and should have stopped both tries....he misjudged both situations .....went for the ball until it was too late in the first one....wasn’t marking the player in the second one. But still he could have prevented the tries with physical tackling but was left sprawling on the deck while his opponent advanced. 
Against the Reds he made zero tackles, against the Stormers he made 2....against the Hurricanes he made 6 and missed 4 and turned over the ball 7 times!!!!!
That means in 4 games he has made a total of 12 tackles and missed 6.....while turning over the ball a total of 8 times. 
Ready for international rugby? Give me a break!

 
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Mar 2020, 02:03
#70
21 Mar 2020, 02:03#70
Oh what utter crap. He was nowhere near the guy for the first Argie try. There is no way anyone would have got there. As for the second try, being a fullback he was wide as it’s not his job to be marking the centre. The Argie received the ball before Fassi could line him up front on, he tried to get him once he was past him and got handed off You are speaking shit Moz His defence has been on par with the likes of Boks Am and Esterhuizen throughout the season, while his attacking prowess has been on another level. His defence is no better or worse than our Bok incumbent fullback Damn right he is ready for test rugby and it’s almost certain he will be capped by Rassie this year Why because he is bloody special
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Mar 2020, 03:46
#71
21 Mar 2020, 03:46#71

Dave he actually made contact with the guy before the try was scored....his rookie mistake was to be laser focused on catching the ball, instead of realizing he had to make a try saving tackle.


And yes he did get handed off for the second try, he went too high....those tackles from behind need to be made low. And what the blue blazes is the point of being wide when you are not marking somebody. In the rush defense he needed to be pinching inwards....another rookie mistake.


He is a fluid runner with smooth pace. Promising, but still callow in a rugby sense.

SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Mar 2020, 05:03
#72
21 Mar 2020, 05:03#72
No Moz by the time get got close to the guy the try was scored, he would never have stopped that try, his only hope was to try compete for the ball but that was never a fair race. He was way behind the guy receiving the ball As for the second, by the time Fassi got close the guy was almost over the try line, he was never in a position to effect a front on tackle. His only hope was from behind but he was never close enough to get a proper purchase. Even if he had, the forward momentum of the Argie would have taken him over the line. There was no way he was going to get into position to get a good grasp on the player. The Argie ran a good line, with Fassi originally covering wide. Covering wide because the Argies had men out wide. You are wrong He has shown more than enough this season to walk straight into the Bok side if Willie is off the boil or not available His ability to find space and ignite an attack is special
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Mar 2020, 09:28
#73
21 Mar 2020, 09:28#73

The deep . . .

. . . deep . . . 

. . . deep . . . 

. . . dive!

LMAO!

Nothing funnier than a pompous old fool who is so conceited and so far up his own arse that he cannot admit he's wrong even when it's blatantly obvious to everyone else.

Moffie either put up the two timestamps that show Fassie getting "run over" (your words) or else retract your lie and wipe all that egg off your stupid face.

MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Mar 2020, 16:57
#74
21 Mar 2020, 16:57#74

The time difference.....remember the earth rotates....the lad has made 12 tackles in 4 games,  with 6 missed tackles.....2 of which were officially recorded against the Jags, when he was brushed aside for tries.

Not so Fassi, lots of work needed.



SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Mar 2020, 17:12
#75
21 Mar 2020, 17:12#75
Bullshit those stats as we have evidenced on numerous occasions are wrong - look no further than Mostert according to the stats not missing a tackle in the WC final - complete rubbish Fassi missed one tackle from behind against the Argies, a tackle everyone would have missed in those circumstances His defence is on par with the rest of our backs and certainly not worse than Willie’s The work is done, he is ready for test rugby as his brilliant form this season has shown
SA
Saffolk Captain30,741 posts
21 Mar 2020, 17:12
#76
21 Mar 2020, 17:12#76
Bullshit those stats as we have evidenced on numerous occasions are wrong - look no further than Mostert according to the stats not missing a tackle in the WC final - complete rubbish Fassi missed one tackle from behind against the Argies, a tackle everyone would have missed in those circumstances His defence is on par with the rest of our backs and certainly not worse than Willie’s The work is done, he is ready for test rugby as his brilliant form this season has shown
RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Mar 2020, 17:28
#77
21 Mar 2020, 17:28#77
Stop dodging you pathetic little coward. All the tries are in those two clips so go ahead and put up the time stamps where Fassi gets "run over".
Failing that, be man enough to admit you were wrong.
MO
MozartCaptain49,914 posts
21 Mar 2020, 17:44
#78
21 Mar 2020, 17:44#78

You have both admitted his involvement in the two tries, you just put      a rosier spin on them. Brushed aside may have been an alternative description to  ‘run over’, but they both point to a lack of physicality. 


So remind me again, what exactly am I supposed to admit to?

RO
RooinekCaptain18,117 posts
21 Mar 2020, 18:11
#79
21 Mar 2020, 18:11#79
"So remind me again, what exactly am I supposed to admit to?"
Well based on your incredibly childish, evasive and cowardly behaviour on this thread you should be admitting to being a liar, a coward and rugby noob w ho doesn't know what being "run over" in the tackle means.
DB
DbDraadCaptain26,388 posts
21 Mar 2020, 18:29
#80
21 Mar 2020, 18:29#80

"Well based on your incredibly childish, evasive and cowardly behaviour on this thread"

Rooi: " Hold my beer."


LMAO!!!!

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