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Springboks vs All Blacks second test analysis/review thread

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Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
30 Aug 2026, 17:02
#1
30 Aug 2026, 17:02#1

Will post as I go, anyone feel free to contribute whatever you want.

First order of business - how Kriel got an easy opening score.

Boks off to a great start with the kickoff being caught and booted out by Jordie 30m out, immediate field position. Lineout win, 15m rolling maul. From here very simple - Fourie breaks away and from this point the ABs are on the back foot and the Boks play too quickly to give them time to recover. Quick ball from the Fourie breakdown, short ball to Wiese tackled by Tupea, then quick ball again for the pivotal big gainline run from Kolisi through Jacobson. Quick ball now sees Eben (clapping his hands calling for it) and PSDT run the inside dummy line to keep Ardie and Holland static. The ball goes straight past Eben and PSDT to Jesse, who attacks the gap left outside the frozen Ardie and Holland and inside Jordan, who has just enough doubt to deal with with Sacha running outside Jesse to be unable to affect anything. Try.

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BE
Beeno1Captain40,402 posts
30 Aug 2026, 17:09
#2
30 Aug 2026, 17:09#2

The rolling maul which started some distance from the abs line was a treat to behold. You knew the Bok ment business.

Pakie
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Pakie30 Aug 2026, 15:15

Ja we had numbers in the end, Hooker was unmarked on the touchline so any of three players could have scored that. Well taken though, simplest route, we've seen these situations leading to nothing many times in rugby.

Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
30 Aug 2026, 17:12
#3
30 Aug 2026, 17:12#3

03:25 first box kick Reinach, Hooker secures, Kolisi first there to clear. Reinach to DDA who offloads forward to Wiese, who drops it anyway.

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Plum
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Plum30 Aug 2026, 19:23

Jirre, this pass from Damien pissed me off!!! The guy actually is braindead. The timing of the move clearly hasn't worked out but what does he do? He chucks the ball forward and at Wiese's chest anyway.

I bet you AE holds that ball and doesn't cause the loss of possession.

CL
Coach57,825 posts
clevermike01 Sept 2026, 15:33

@Plum
Anything relatig to D e A llende pisses you off. he non-defense by Estehu8izen pisses me off,

Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
30 Aug 2026, 17:23
#4
30 Aug 2026, 17:23#4

Might have to download another replay video, this one keeps freezing up while the commentary carries on.

Xavi
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Xavi30 Aug 2026, 15:55

Multilingual commentary.

Pakie
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Pakie30 Aug 2026, 18:13

@Xavi thanks, looks like that one may work.

Plum
PlumCaptain22,059 posts
30 Aug 2026, 21:23
#5
30 Aug 2026, 21:23#5

I'm very much waiting in anticipation of the breakdown of the first AB try.

Something tells me its going to be scathing.

Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
30 Aug 2026, 21:52
#6
30 Aug 2026, 21:52#6

For the next 5-6 minutes after the Bok try the ABs have a lot of possession but is frustrated by the Bok rush defense, resulting in a few poor kicks with attacking ball as their options grow thin. The lineout at 09:40 follows Willemse's clearance of one such poor kick, and it kicks off a sequence worth noting.

Again it's a short ball to the front like by the ABs like when Roigard broke down the touchline a few minutes earlier. The ABs pull the Boks to center field with a Quinn carry into Sacha and DDA. Now they strike back left again where mostly Bok tight forwards are defending in a line. Jordie's pass goes behind Vaai edging again but they achieve their aim - spread the Boks around. ABs move back right, first with a carry into contact to set up the next phase. As they play Carter comes around from left wing to receive Jordie's pass, which draws Hooker in and gets them a 3 on 1.

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The Bok cover has to rush across, opening up a big gap down the middle occupied by nothing but air and All Blacks. Note the tight forwards coming across from the other side of the gap struggling to keep up with play. Dmac slips as he tries to step, but PSDT (and this is what I'm talking about elsewhere on the forum about his pace and mobility) can't adjust quickly enough despite the slip and Dmac hits the gap.

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He kicks a grubber for Jordan who gathers but is tackled by Sacha near the tryline. Penalty advantage ABs as Jesse tries to jackal without supporting his bodyweight. Again the Boks are thin out left but Quinn's pass goes behind Dmac and the chance for a strike wide is lost. Carter carries and sets up. A gap opens as the Boks abandon the open side of the ruck to cover the right and Parker beats Wiese's tackle to make some meters into the space.

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Hooker's dominant tackle on Quinn ends the ABs momentum and they go back for the penalty.

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In this sequence we can see how the All Blacks use the width of the field to get the Bok defense scrambling, which in this case opens two gaps - the one that Dmac runs through and the one at the ruck as the Bok forwards scramble to get across. Had Quinn's wide pass from the Jordan breakdown been accurate there could have been trouble as the All Blacks had numbers wide.

At the AB lineout resulting from the penalty Eben competes and gets a hand to the ball, resulting in a Bok scrum and a big AB chance gone.

Mozart
MozartCoach50,531 posts
30 Aug 2026, 22:20
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30 Aug 2026, 22:20#7

The Dud Allende try is being contested….take a look at Deon Fourie…..he is down on the ground ahead of the ruck. That’s not an issue methinks, but as he gets up he barges backwards into Parker delaying his movement and Dud passes through that gap. That’s could be construed as obstruction. Perhaps Fourie was trying to get out the way, but the effect was still to obstruct the tackler, who brings down Dud, but too close to the line

Pakie
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Pakie30 Aug 2026, 20:55

Yeah I think I read a Youtube comment or something where someone also brought that up.

bobbok
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bobbok30 Aug 2026, 23:50

@Pakie ... its been spoken about constantly down thisaway.

Pakie
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Pakie31 Aug 2026, 09:46

Yeah this is actually pretty blatant. Fourie gets up and just goes straight for Parker. He knew what he was doing.

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And then there's the pat on the head from Reinach and a little smirk towards the ABs afterwards. You get away with what you can get away with I guess.

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Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
30 Aug 2026, 22:54
#8
30 Aug 2026, 22:54#8

First AB try. We saw what they did in the previous play with Carter coming over from the left to provide an extra man. Same again this time.

Lineout just inside halfway, Bok territory. ABs setting up midfield to compress the Bok defense.

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Quinn again carries into DDA and Sacha. Ruck. ABs stack the right, note Carter coming round - he will be the key while we have a dummy runner angling in to keep Kriel honest (ends up in borderline obstruction).

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Hooker goes in on Love with Carter receiving to establish the man over as he draws Willemse to feed Jordan.

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Jordan beats Jesse for straight pace and DDA, hesitating in probable anticipation of an inside break, can't make up for the yard or two that costs him and is also beaten. PSDT in cover seems to be in a position to influence play but again makes no more ground than Nortje to his inside and only starts sprinting once the pass goes to Roigard, thus ends up a few yards off Roigard as he receives the scoring pass. It's hard to judge these things from TV angles but again, I am concerned about our 7 having the speed of a lock, especially against a side like the ABs pushing the width and edges of the field. I'm having trouble deciding if this is fair or unfair criticism in this instance, I'll leave people to decide for themselves since the footage is freely available on the highlights package as well.

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MP
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Mpower31 Aug 2026, 11:24

Yeah Pakie, Wiese's form took a nosedive in the second test. We need him back to breaking down the door.

Esterhuizen is a magnificent rugby player and very versatile. I also prefer him at 12, but wherever he plays, he gives 150%.

Kolisi was very focused and played well. Hopefully, he can bring another good performance. The million-dollar question will always be: when will Rassie eventually let the future guard take over?

At the moment, I don't see that happening, especially if the incumbents still perform above average.

bobbok
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bobbok01 Sept 2026, 03:11

@Pakie .. AE at 12 ... just thinking of some of his spectacular offloads

Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
31 Aug 2026, 12:13
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31 Aug 2026, 12:13#9

Another one of those ref calls you have a hard time understanding. Kolbe tackled, they attempt to hold him up but his knee touches the ground pretty much right away right in front of Gardner, and two seconds later they're both on the ground, still under Gardner's gaze. That means the tacklers need to let go. It's only 8 seconds after the initial ground contact that he finally blows the whistle, awarding a scrum to NZ.

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And this is Jacobson's grip on Kolbe.

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And to even things out a bit, here is DDA clearing Roigard with a forearm to the neck on the halftime whistle.

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Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
31 Aug 2026, 20:27
#10
31 Aug 2026, 20:27#10

At the risk of making too fine a point of it - PSDT getting a solid tackle position on Vaai, who just walks out of it. This is the type of thing that raised the question marks for me against England this year. Earlier Jordie Barrett also all but shrugged off a Steph tackle. This is not 2023 Steph anymore.

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Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
31 Aug 2026, 20:40
#11
31 Aug 2026, 20:40#11

There's a stark contrast between Esterhuizen and Wiese in this game. Wiese has been largely ineffective on the carry, dominated and hit back in the tackle numerous times. Esterhuizen has dominated the first tackle with every carry so far.

55:54 Hooker with an impressive carry, steps Jordan, beats Love and Quinn before finally being caught by Jordan after making 20m through a congested area. Get this guy the ball.

DE
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Denny01 Sept 2026, 02:49

If Weise continues to take big hits which no doubt he will with his style of play then he’ll lose his zest and end up like pulp in a very short career.

Plum
PlumCaptain22,059 posts
01 Sept 2026, 08:35
#12
01 Sept 2026, 08:35#12

A splendid job thus far, Paks.

So true about AE.

I honestly cannot imagine a world where I don't start him in every single game that he is available.

I'd be setting him up for those little loop around move constantly where the ball goes to 13, and AE comes around at pace with only the opposition winger and 13 in front of him. Chances are be busts the first tackle and makes the offload back inside or to the winger on the outside. The type of stuff you simply cannot do with DDA.

Or those 5m situations. AE coming on at pace an receiving a pop.

I'm not sure if you remember last season when i was complaining that the Lions were not using Venter properly because they were not setting him up to run at the opposition. Basically the gameplan nullifying one of the strongest players on the field. And then this season they actually started creating moments where he could run, and how massive a difference that made. To me, the exact same thing is happening to AE at the Boks. He's money every time you let him build up a bit of speed, but we just don't see the Boks setting him up to do that.

Imagine him playing for the ABs, France or Ireland...jirre, he'd be the focal point of their attack. All roads would end with him getting the ball at pace and with a man on either side of him waiting for the offload. And it would be deadly. For heaven's sake...he's 193cm and 118Kgs!!!???

It actually blows my mind that this guy is forced to play at flank.

Pakie
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Pakie01 Sept 2026, 10:23

Or those 5m situations. AE coming on at pace an receiving a pop.

Yep. The major difference between AE and DDA is AE gets dynamic go forward. DDA tends to just stand up in the tackle and make a slow meter or two forward (someone referred to him pinballing between defenders on the live thread) - that doesn't trouble the defense. What troubles the defense is someone dominating the first tackler and ending up two or three meters beyond the contact immediately. Watch the Kolisi carry to set up Kriel's try, watch the Lakai carry to set up Ardie's try. Shit, watch AE's try last week. This is what you want and this is what AE can give you in the red zone in particular. The only guy that stopped him in his tracks on one occasion on Saturday was Aumua, who put in a beastly spell for the ABs. We've missed a massive trick with this guy sitting at just 20 odd tests near the end of his career.

Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
01 Sept 2026, 12:46
#13
01 Sept 2026, 12:46#13

I don't have time to point out too much more stuff from this game, it takes a lot of time. But having watched the last 20 minutes properly now which I struggled to do with how crappy my internet was on Saturday, the All Blacks moered us a bit in that period and we helped them do it with our box kicks just returning possession to them. Carter's try came directly off a Bok box kick. We have to seriously rethink this strategy. We were looking like blowing out the score at one point and then just stopped playing. Aumua was a firecracker for the ABs when he came on, both on the carry and the tackle. Lakai likewise must have made a big argument for a starting spot, but he brings plenty off the bench too.

If the All Blacks can settle themselves down a little and improve their accuracy in execution (they made a lot of errant passes, a lot, that tanked good momentum or chances for them), work on not isolating so much (Marx won us 6 points on his own at the breakdowns) there can be big trouble.

AE's turnover on Jordan to end the game was huge as they already had us stretched again. Should be a cracking third test.

Plum
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Plum01 Sept 2026, 11:50

I think it was Hanekom that made that final turnover.

Pakie
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Pakie01 Sept 2026, 12:53

@Plum nope, AE in the 20 jersey. Hanekom was 21, you can see him standing just off the breakdown (yellow circle). Matt Pearce called it Hanekom on commentary but he was wrong.

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Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
01 Sept 2026, 19:42
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01 Sept 2026, 19:42#14

Haha, the officials were having none of head and neck contacts in this game from either side (until Lood's). Earlier I mentioned Aumua being the only one to stop AE dead. Well, it's actually a double tackle with Lakai involved too, but look at the contact area from Aumua -clear shoulder to head. Penalty at the very least, but Sam Cane would be scratching his head. From this breakdown the boxie comes that leads to Carter's try.

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Pakie
PakieCaptain18,305 posts
01 Sept 2026, 20:06
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01 Sept 2026, 20:06#15

Carter's try - Krappies kicks a decent contestable boxie, but for once Hooker is beaten in the air by Jordan, who takes the ball clearly and finds himself coming down in a corridor of space between chasers Eben and Marx, giving him an easy 10m by the time Marx gets him down.

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The All Blacks run their quick passing game again, Jesse as always gets himself into the AB line to prevent the wide pass or invite the lob over the top which helps the defense close down the space. Jordie however keeps the short pass game going by drawing DDA and feeding Holland, which draws Jesse back in and opens the space wide.

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Holland now lobs it over Jesse's head, with Dmac again running a dummy line next to him serving to draw in Cheslin as well. The Holland pass however cuts out Dmac and goes straight to Quinn who throws the cutout to Carter in space.

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Jesse can't get there and Manie who can does the weakest of a shoulder dusting excuse of a tackle and Carter scores. This is rather a spectacular try, perfectly executed.

Mozart
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Mozart01 Sept 2026, 20:31

In this game Kriel lost the defensive tactical battle….rare in recent times. And that left him having to make lots of open field tackles. He made 11 and missed 7. Shockingly low completion by our defensive captain. He looked more like the old Jessie who handed Japan a win in the 2015 WC.

Only Manie was worse out there with 7 tackles made and 5 missed.

Without the structural defensive dominance we have seen in prior tests our actual tackling has been exposed. Kriel, Manie, Dud Allende with his two tackle misses for tries were the obvious culprits.

Pakie
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Pakie02 Sept 2026, 04:50

@Mozart they're beating the Kriel rush with short passing and stacked numbers. I've shown the examples of Carter being used coming around from the left off Love or Jordie with Dmac running the angled dummy line inside to pause the shift. By putting it through the hands no one can just abandon their spot and rush wide and it pulls the outsise defenders in like with Kolbe in the Carter try example.

Our sides still love the long cutout, it drove me nuts in the URC when so often we had a line of four backs against three defenders and the ball gets tossed past all of them to the guy on the touchline who then has the entire defensive line shift onto him and crowding him out. The Lions is the only side who gets it yet. The Boks still love the cutout instead of the hands too.

bobbok
bobbokCaptain10,632 posts
02 Sept 2026, 08:44
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02 Sept 2026, 08:44#16

PofaDaddy, thanks brilliant breakdown ... btw Aumua's 29, young enough for another two RWCs

Pakie
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Pakie02 Sept 2026, 08:54

Lekker Blobbie.

Mozart
MozartCoach50,531 posts
02 Sept 2026, 09:48
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02 Sept 2026, 09:48#17

Players who never missed a tackle last Saturday:

Nortje 13 tackles made…. shades of Mostert
Esterhuizen 8 tackles……Clever take note.
Hooker 7 tackles
Reinach 5 tackles

This excludes players who never attempted a tackle. Not astounding stuff but when you consider Kriel missed 7, Manie missed 5 and van den Berg disappointingly missed 4….these were our defensive stalwarts

Plum
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Plum02 Sept 2026, 08:31

Hooker is a brilliant defender. He really is a class player in every facet. The only thing i haven't seem him do is kick but I'm pretty sure he can.

He's closing ground on Sacha at the moment.

Plum
PlumCaptain22,059 posts
02 Sept 2026, 10:27
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02 Sept 2026, 10:27#18

You're right about that final steal, Paks. The commentator literally twice said Hanekom made the steal...these bloody misinformation agents.

Plum
PlumCaptain22,059 posts
02 Sept 2026, 10:29
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02 Sept 2026, 10:29#19

The next thing i want to know is why you don't make a little Youtube channel for these reviews.

I think there is an audience for it.

bobbok
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bobbok02 Sept 2026, 19:54

@Pakie ... not to mention the kak streams that you have to contend with. Good luck for Saturday.

Plum
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Plum03 Sept 2026, 06:19

Paks is just shy. He's worried the world won't understand his Pofadder accent.

DbDraad
DbDraadCaptain26,964 posts
03 Sept 2026, 01:48
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03 Sept 2026, 01:48#20
Pakie
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Pakie03 Sept 2026, 05:32

Some of these are valid, some not. The first two I would consider side entries. I don't see anything wrong with Quinn's entry at 0:47, nor with Jacobson's right after. Jacobson's at 1:08 though is in the realm of making a parody of the laws, he literally ends up binding on the Bok side of the ruck. Dmac at 1:17 is joining from the direction of his own tryline as the law dictates, but from the side in the next one. Jacobson's next two should both have been penalized, at least one is. Holland offside I would say yes at 2:17. Yes, no idea how Ox is offside at 2:50. Head and neck contacts, there were plenty from both sides. DDA alone twice wrestled/cleared on the neck, I showed one in this thread where he cleared Roigard with the forearm to the neck.

Thing is you can say the ABs are "cheating", but any team will do whatever the ref allows them to do. See Fourie's obstruction on Parker. There is some terrible reffing here though, even World Rugby's video on side entry on their laws page shows exactly the thing Jacobson was doing multiple times as an example.

That none of the officials are picking up on that beggars belief. These dudes are not held accountable for anything outside of World Rugby, who wraps them in a cloak of protection.

DbDraad
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DbDraad03 Sept 2026, 05:53

@Pakie ...there's a lot going on the whole time in these intense matches ...both sides can highlight things the officials missed... it's not bias nor incompetence... it's rugby, difficult to police while giving the players time to play as well...I don't think the reffing spoiled the contest though...fans on both sides are a bit salty all over social media...

Pakie
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Pakie03 Sept 2026, 06:03

@DbDraad yeah, I don't like obsessing over reffing either, there's so much more interesting stuff happening on the field to look at. But some of it is very obvious and hence frustrating, especially given that there are 3 officials on the field.

But, you also find out pretty soon on social media that most people don't have a clue about the rugby laws - many don't even understand the concept of momentum drift on passes.

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