I am not sure he has the focus or professionalism required at test level. He was on the pitch for a few minutes before getting sent off.
In the first half, I think the Boks gave away 1 penalty, which was fantastic discipline
I am not sure he has the focus or professionalism required at test level. He was on the pitch for a few minutes before getting sent off.
In the first half, I think the Boks gave away 1 penalty, which was fantastic discipline
Remember when he tried to take Eben on. Homie got instantly rag dolled hahaha
Not easy for tall guys, but his joints must be so stiff. Didn't he get a red card last year. For some reason he gets carded all the time and then you have Nortje, few cm shorter but don't get carded.
Must be those knees and hips
Bit harsh indeed given numerous AB head collisions that were not penalized at all. Loods incident was obviously an accident and not intentional.
Sharkie and Ou Pakster obviously are poor judges of locks. Lood is a very good lock and I hope he has a great game. Brilliant line out artist.
Mentioned it here previously but in my house, years ago, Lomp got the title Nesquik boy.
Jerome Kaino
Another of the passive types. Lood moves like Lurch. Everything he does seems to occur half a second after the situation has already developed, as though he's in a constant state of buffering. If we could see inside his head, I imagine we'd find nothing but black space and that amusingly named little throbber symbol endlessly completing its cycle while the game carries on around him.
Then there are the ghost hands. I've been trying to understand for years how a man with arms that long can have such remarkably little influence on objects travelling through the space immediately in front of him. My working theory is that his reach animation possesses only one active frame. Either that or his hitbox inexplicably stops at the elbows. It would at least explain why balls seem capable of travelling straight through his hands as though somebody forgot to enable collision detection.
Saturday's yellow card was almost the perfect Lood cameo. Barely on the field and already lumbering into the wrong picture, processing events several frames behind everybody else, before being dispatched again. There's something almost fascinating about him. A gigantic Test lock who can simultaneously occupy an enormous amount of physical space while somehow exerting remarkably little presence within it.
Lood is a peculiar specimen, to say the least. Somewhere beneath the lanky exterior, I'm convinced the loading screen is still spinning.
@Rooinek That's a rather heroic equivalence, Rooinek. Pollard may miss tackles, but comparing him defensively with Manie is like comparing a faulty bollard with a Paper Mario character.
Pollard is 100-odd kilos of flyhalf who can defend in the traffic, absorb contact and at least present an actual physical obstacle to a carrier. Manie sometimes appears to have been rendered in two dimensions. A sufficiently determined opposition runner doesn't so much break his tackle as pass through his general vicinity and cause him to flutter away in the slipstream. I'm not entirely convinced his collision model has been enabled.
Said another way Pollard is an aggressive tackler ….tackling over the advantage line, Manie’s tackle attempts have him on his heels. That said I have frequently said Pollard is not a reliable tackler and thus not an option at 12.
I’d be pleasantly surprised if Lood is up to the necessary pace of the ABs. Looks to me like the type of player who needs a few games to get his engine started
Looks to me like the type of player who needs a few games to get his engine started himself injured again.
Fixed for you, D.
@Pakie Put it this way Pakster, if you take in Rassie’s chopping and changing- unsettled sides etc you start to wonder what on earth was that about when the best he can do is come up with, Lead.
Twice the lock the physically inept Mostert ever was
@Saffolk “Zero productivity” followed immediately by “loads of tackles, durable, plenty of heart and energy” is quite an impressive piece of self-refutation, Saffex. 😂 Apparently productivity only counts if Mostert picks up a prop, carries him five metres and throws him through the advertising hoardings. Mostert's value was never brute-force collision dominance; it was work rate, mobility, defensive coverage, lineout utility and repeatedly being in the right place to clean up other people's adventures. I called him PSDT's safety blanket for a reason — Pieter-Steph could fire himself out of the defensive line like a surface-to-air missile with defective guidance and Franco would frequently be somewhere behind him repairing the resulting hole.
And this is precisely why the Lood comparison amuses me. You're grading the two from the manufacturer's brochure rather than the match footage. Lood has the superior chassis: bigger, heavier, longer, more powerful. Wonderful. Where is all this magnificent machinery's corresponding production? For someone supposedly “twice the lock”, an awful lot of his superiority exists in the subjunctive mood. Mostert was supposedly too small, too weak and insufficiently gifted, yet somehow accumulated 80-odd Bok caps and repeatedly survived selection by several international coaching staffs. Lood, meanwhile, continues to resemble a magnificent piece of industrial equipment somebody forgot to plug in.
@Deus Ex Lemur since when does heart, energy and being durable equate to being productive?
Making loads of tackles is being productive if you are a loosie or centre maybe - hardly the measure of a Bok lock now is it. Would be different if they were massive dominant tackles
This notion that Lood is not plugged in is absolute bullshit - he is far more noticeably productive than powder puff ever is
Mostert’s contributions always feature as behind the scenes - effectively confirming anything he does do is insignificant
He is crap in my opinion and thank goodness he is at the end of his career. He won’t be missed at all. The Bok side is a better one in his absence
The problem is there is very little proof, of this
so-called productivity by Lood. The main reason is Lood has been injured more than he's played, and when he has played, he's often been a liability, like the yellow card last weekend.
Franco Mostert was a vital cog in our 23 World Cup campaign. His mobility, line-out work, and his unrelenting defence are a big part of why we won WC 23.
That's not opinion, that's fact. Lood has never been that player. He's been an injury-prone squad member, not a talisman. Unfortunately, the evidence shows Lood has been a liability for years, and Mostert was key to our success.
That being said, Franco is in the final stages of his career. But one thing is bloody certain, so is Lood.
So the very important question we have to be asking ourselves, and especially Doctor Lucky, is why the hell does he pick Lood de Jager when he has lock options like Ruben van Heerden and Cobus Wiese??
Not to even mention the candidates that weren't selected.
So the very important question we have to be asking ourselves, and especially Doctor Lucky, is why the hell does he pick Lood de Jager when he has lock options like Ruben van Heerden and Cobus Wiese??
Exactly my point in the above post.
I wonder what the Mamparas Union think about R G Snyman,. Doubtless in their idiotic views another useless injury prone Lock.
Lood has had some very impressive outing for the Boks and I sincerely hope he avoids injury and plays great rugby.
Yes there is a future after this series but for now Lood could do a job for us.
I thought Reuben van Heerden had a good first test. His time will come. Cobus Wiese? Not convinced about yet. Lets see more of him later and settle the issue.
Big fan of Cobus Wiese as an enforcer type lock, was very impressive in his last outing
It’s a travesty that Ruben v Heerden was not retained in the Bok squad after a good debut
Ruan Vermaak of the Bulls is another who should be in the equation
Mostert was always a physical liability - should never have played a single test. Not convinced by the physically inept Nortje either but he is a better athlete and has better skills than Mostert ever had
Mostert is one of the handful of Boks who have spent years carrying a basket of mediocrity, as we witnessed throughout both of the last World Cups. The great irony is that because his contribution isn't accompanied by much theatre, people like Saffex mistake usefulness for inadequacy.