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Thoughts on AB tour

Started by Plum12 REPLIES132 VIEWS· 27 Jul 2026, 19:01
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Plum
PlumCaptain21,337 posts
27 Jul 2026, 19:01
#1
27 Jul 2026, 19:01#1

Last year I was pretty negative about our chances in the 4 big games of the year. They were all away games too.

We ended up winning 75% of them and did so in quite dominant style.

The conventional wisdom would dictate that since 3 of the 4 games against the ABs are in SA, the Boks should see the ABs off without too much trouble.

I know that not a single Bok fan here just read the above and felt comfortable with the "conventional wisdom". I don't either.

Mainly I'm worried about the AB ruck speed. If the Boks have had a weakness over the last few years it's that they've gotten flustered when teams came at them fast and cleared rucks quickly. The Eden Park game last year was the blueprint and I have a feeling that the ABs are gonna run out in Cape Town looking to hit rucks early and hard. I wouldn't be surprised to see them put a bit of extra effort into counter rucks, as they did successfully against Ireland, and the Boks at Eden Park.

I feel the ABs biggest risk factor is going to be injuries. If Love goes down, suddenly they'll look a lot like the ABs we've been beating over the last few years. What happens if Roigard gets injured? It's a long tour, they'll be playing so many games on the bounce, and on harder pitches than they're used to. It's going to be interesting to see their selections for the games against the franchise sides.

One feels that the Boks, playing less games, are less at risk of injuries, but also more able to replace anybody that takes a knock.

That first game in CT(correction; Ellis Park) is going to be brutal. I'm very much doubting it's going to be pretty rugby and instead have much more of the feel of a knockout game because that'll be the one that will set the tone.

I'll make a big call and predict that Jasper will be man of the series. I honestly think he's the MVP at the moment. That rubbish that they used to say about DDA "Stop DDA and you stop the Boks"...I think if you replace DDA's name with Jasper's then that statement becomes a lot more true at the moment.

Not long now!

What are your thoughts?

DbDraad
DbDraadCaptain26,633 posts
27 Jul 2026, 19:41
#2
27 Jul 2026, 19:41#2

"The Eden Park game last year was the blueprint and I have a feeling that the ABs are gonna run out in Cape Town looking to hit rucks early and hard. "

Eden Park was a wet slippery mess...but yes, when the Allblacks are allowed to play their fast expansive game, they're close to impossible to beat ...this will be a very difficult test for the Bokke...the tour provides the platform for the Allblacks to get used to the conditions while being forged into a team...with the potential to exeed the hype and excitement of a B&I Lions tour...hope it lives up to the expectations.

Plum
Captain21,337 posts
Plum28 Jul 2026, 05:52

"Eden Park was a wet slippery mess, but yes, when the All Blacks are allowed to play their fast expansive game, they're close to impossible to beat. This will be a very difficult test for the Bokke. The tour provides the platform for the All Blacks to get used to the conditions while being forged into a team, with the potential to exceed the hype and excitement of a B&I Lions tour. Hope it lives up to the expectations."

There we go Draad, don't be so afraid of normal punctuation.

sharkbok
sharkbokCaptain23,272 posts
27 Jul 2026, 19:47
#3
27 Jul 2026, 19:47#3

The All Blacks have improved, but it is not clear how much. They just played at Eden Park, where they usually are at their best. The Springboks must start as strong favourites.

However, the Boks have not really played their best side this year, and have played many third-choice and even 4th choice players for much of the year. When they play Argentina, it will not be with the same team that plays against the All Blacks. Many of the top players are preparing for the All Blacks games.

The Argentina game seems like poor planning before a home series. Rather, play at home with a first-choice team before the All Blacks.

DE
DennyCaptain13,004 posts
28 Jul 2026, 05:53
#4
28 Jul 2026, 05:53#4

Interesting takes, but it remains to be seen whether the AB's have improved and by how much. I think we’ll have a clearer idea after the completion of the tour in South Africa. I’m not sure the game against Ireland is a good yardstick—on home soil against an ordinary Ireland, I’m not convinced.

As for their pattern of play, nothing’s changed. Their attack usually comes from broken play rather than set pieces, and they’re masters of the ruck and quick ball. None of this is new, and the Boks will be well aware of it. In fact, their style is quite predictable. Still, they’re very good at it, and it should help them settle into their game more comfortably than the Boks, especially in the first test where they’ll face conditions not dissimilar to those in New Zealand.
The Boks will be a bit off the pace at first, needing time to find their rhythm and coordination, improving as the game wears on since they haven’t fielded a settled side in quite a while. Their style is unpredictable—there’s really no set pattern—though the Kiwis know they’ll be facing a tough Bok defence and an attack that’s hard to prepare for. In our favor are the set pieces and the magic of Sacha; if not him, there's Kolbe, and if not Kolbe, we also have Arendse and Willemse.
All of them are game breakers.
The 1st test is the one the ABs need to win, if they don't...well...rest assured the Boks will be better than what they were in the 1st test.

Plum
Captain21,337 posts
Plum28 Jul 2026, 06:25

I cant wait to see who Boks select in the first game. Are we gonna get the Eden Park team or the Wellington team? My feeling, it's gonna be almost a carbon copy of the team that beat France last year...Reinach, Sacha, DDA, Kriel, Willemse(15).

Though, I'm hoping tis Williams, Sacha, AE and Kriel/Moodie...with Willemse at 15 and then Kolbe and Arendse/Hooker.

We know that Marx, Wiese, Nortje, PSDT, Ox and Eben will start upfront.

The big question is Siya. The way that Divvy pressure's opposition ball will be gold against a team that wants quick rucks and sometimes sees the ball runner isolated after a break.

DE
Captain13,004 posts
Denny28 Jul 2026, 13:29

@Plum Are we gonna get the Eden Park team or the Wellington team?

Methinks it will be a blend of experience and youth, Sacha, Kolbe, Arendse, Williams and Willemse is a given.
And just to add to the AB's misery they get moer'd in the scrum as well. Foeitog, you'd have to feel sorry for them.
I'm curious as to who Rassie chooses as the loose trio.....if they show up it will add to the ABs misery.
Ai!

Plum
PlumCaptain21,337 posts
31 Jul 2026, 07:36
#5
31 Jul 2026, 07:36#5

Hey...you guys are nowhere near the hype levels required.

I doubt the Bulls, Lions or Stompies will beat the ABs, not even gonna mention the Sharks, but we basically have 4 AB tests and the four franchise games.

Increase the hype levels lads, it's gonna be a kick ass spring!

DE
DennyCaptain13,004 posts
31 Jul 2026, 09:01
#6
31 Jul 2026, 09:01#6

Realistically I don't expect our franchises will beat the ABs.

Mozart
MozartCoach50,074 posts
31 Jul 2026, 16:43
#7
31 Jul 2026, 16:43#7

The provincial games are important. If the ABs run through the Stormers, Bulls and Sharks with big wins, they will be much more confident going into the first test. The Boks are the obvious favorites and when I read articles about de Groot losing weight, as an example of their prep, I think he would be better off focusing on putting on muscle.

It comes down to one big question.Can the NZ scrum man up to the pounding they are about to get in the scrums. If they can’t it’s going to be a long tour. And I can’t see the new personnel in the squad that’s going to change the dynamic from last year.

That said our great pack is getting very old in rugby terms, subject to injuries and more vulnerable to pressure.

Will we play any rugby, not if Tony Brown can help it….why would he start now against NZ when his return to NZ is all but guaranteed.

Plum
Captain21,337 posts
Plum01 Aug 2026, 06:05

Agreed...and I don't think their scrum will hold up.

To me it's a question of whether scrums will matter. Looking at the Nations Championship this year, scrums resulting in penalties are way down. Off memory, it felt like at least 50% resulted in free kicks. And the scrummies are basically being allowed to roll the ball right through the scrum, zero hook required.

Rassie needs to do his thing and make a huge stink in the press about how scrums are being de-powered and becoming irrelevant.

BE
Beeno1Captain40,083 posts
31 Jul 2026, 17:39
#8
31 Jul 2026, 17:39#8

To me the question relate largely to the pack. Will OX be fit and ready to go. Otherwise i am happy with our props and hookers.
Is Siya still able to put in a big performance. But here its possible Paul de Villiers could be the answer failing that Van Staden. Will De Villiers prove to have the physicality needed or will he be knocked off the ball. Time will tell.
The pack has to have an edge for us to win.
Will Sascha or Libbok make the goal kicks in a tight game. Other than that I think we have the backs.
In our favour is the depth we have and home ground advantage.
Some of the guys who will probably make the match 23 are coming back from injury. Will they be fit enough to do the job assigned to them. Fortunately this again applies mainly to the pack where there will be ample reserves and of course Plumpster's hero AE as the hybrid.
This season will see a a lot of players sifted by Rassie. Its a brutal schedule but the depth built by Rassie will help and also it will ensure Bok hopefuls are really tested.
As Denny said the wee abs are not trying anything new so lets see if they can execute better.
Franchises must play their Boks and ground down the wee abs. If this happens its going to be an awesome tour. If not the franchise games might be flops?

bobbok
Captain10,313 posts
bobbok01 Aug 2026, 07:50

The franchise games are a wee puzzle ... the ABs with their huge squad will undoubtedly field majority C teams, protecting their best ... & on the udder hand imo. I don't want any of our top lot playing either.
Its all about the Tests.

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