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Mozart
MozartCoach50,531 posts
13 Sept 2026, 03:55
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The Boks were clearly the better team in this contest:

11 line breaks to 8
32 tackles beaten to 30
52% of the territory
54% of possession
523 meters to 369

A narrow lead on most stats, except meters gained where Arendse’s big night of 169 meters to second best Rooiigard at 77 accounted for two thirds of the difference. Individually:

In terms of offense Arendse 8 defenders beaten, followed by Wiese 5 and Sacha 3 were our most productive runners.

In terms of tackling Wiese 17, Eben 15 the Duds 13 and 12 made the most tackles….but again Dud Toit missed 5 tackles topping the tackles missed stat for both teams, Dud Allende missed 4 and Libbok missed 3, one for a try, in the blink of an eye. Dud Toit’s numbers have now settled at a third of his tackles missed.

There’s no stat available for lineout steals, but Etzebeth’s dominance in the front of the lineout was a factor through all 4 tests and limited NZ’s options.

This was an encouraging test for the Boks, a big win in metres gained, more tries than NZ and less reliance on the set piece. The backline structure on our very first move looked much more sophisticated. And individually Willemse, Arendse and even Dud Allende looked more potent than their NZ opponents.. much of that slickness is down to the very mature play of Morne van der Bergh at 9, who outplayed Rooigard, one of the edges in NZ’s favor when Reinach started.

We can play rugby and when we do all our players look better…after Wellington and Baltimore I hope we finally accept, we win more convincingly when we trust our backline to compete.

A word on the new players, MvdB and Hanekom look like two new incumbents. Finding two more before year end would go a long way towards calming the geriatric fears with a WC on the horizon.

The other learning from this series is, even a clearly weaker team like NZ can beat us on any given day. The same is true for France, Ireland, England and even Australia. Wanting to win more convincingly helps build the kind of cushion that can offset the vagaries of any rugby contest.

Pakie
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Pakie13 Sept 2026, 04:43

This was possibly Steph's weakest game of the year, close to the one against England, while DDA has been growing in stature - getting him more ball certainly helps. Steph lost the ball at least twice in contact on top of a lot of tackle misses.

Manie wasn't going to stop Blackadder from that distance, the more problematic tackle miss there was Wiese on Roigard.

Cam Hanekom was a game changer - at least two clean turnovers, hunting down Jordan on the outside, getting back to make the tackle on Moorby that gave Arendse his try. A few minutes on the field and you can already make a list of his impacts. Wish he got 40 minutes.

It was good to see the Boks play more than 10 man rugby. This is what we've been calling for given the platform our set piece and maul gives us. It's still pretty basic stuff outside of one or two more interesting moments, but we get such tackle dominance with our carriers that the simple direct route stuff bears fruit regardless.

bobbok
bobbokCaptain10,628 posts
13 Sept 2026, 04:14
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13 Sept 2026, 04:14#2

I heard a tackling stat ... we made 11 dominant tackles, NZ 2.
Hanekom must get more gametime.

SA
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Saffolk 13 Sept 2026, 12:08

@Pakie that makes no sense given the Boks hardly physically dominated the AB’s now did they. It was a physical edge but certainly not domination

BO
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BokBF13 Sept 2026, 13:05

Not sure, to my mind we dominated the breakdown...we did that through physicality and accuracy. That gave us the platform for a more expansive game. Congrats to the Boks and the ABs it's been an enthralling 4 weeks 👏

bobbok
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13 Sept 2026, 05:47
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13 Sept 2026, 07:45
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Springboks v All Blacks: Five takeaways as Rassie Erasmus' Bomb Squad blasts South Africa to Rugby's Greatest Rivalry series victory

Springboks v All Blacks: Five takeaways as Rassie Erasmus' Bomb Squad blasts South Africa to Rugby's Greatest Rivalry series victory

🇿🇦 🏆 "Rassie Erasmus has now had four consecutive weekends of live evidence against the only other side in the world with a claim on the Webb Ellis Cup." #RSAvNZL #RGR2026

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CL
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clevermike13 Sept 2026, 07:30

Mozart

Your shit of ESPN stats is about as accurate and useful as is the normal attacks on players you dislike are, Wiese for instance may make tackles if he ever get near enough to players to tackle in traffic. He is pace-deficient and have near to zero ball sense. When the ball goes wider he arrives on the scene later the props did, But you think he is a star - reality shows that he is deficient. I would prefer Hanekom ahead of him 100% of the time. In this series he made zero breakdown turnovers and when he tried he got penalized. Penalties given away by him and Fourie ended up in tries for the AB's.

In the test yesterday De Allende ,made one turnover - one more than Wiese did. He reminds me in many ways of Sloth Alberts a total waste of space as a loosie - yet you admired him as to be expected. Loosies make miss tackle on backline players wider out - not in traffic, but at least they are there to help defense wider out - sloth rugby players never do.

ESPN stats do not win matches - detailed scientific proof in terms of modern technology at the disposal of rugby coaches does. It follows the activities of every player and determines the real value of every player and indicate the actual contributions made by players. Some coaches like Meyer, Coetzee and White never used it and in the end failed as coaches and got fired as a result,

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Mozart
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Mozart13 Sept 2026, 14:55

@clevermike Actually these aren’t ESPN stats and I also prefer Hanekom over Wiese. Take a poeiertjie.

BE
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Beeno113 Sept 2026, 15:23

@clevermike Interesting Comments about Wiese. Wiese has his strengths but against a side like the wee abs did we need a faster number 8 or did Wiese's phyicality help break down the abs I felt the Stormers without many of their top players still competed with the wee abs and a reason for that was a very quick loose trio.
Its clear Rassie didn't want to take too many chances against the abs and placed his confidence a lot on experience. I think Hanekom will start in some tests this year, He could start against Australia.
What we might see more against top sides of is the younger players starting and the guys like Eben, Marx Kolisi, PSDT, Allende, Kriel, Kolbe etc on the bench. That said don't be surprised if Pollard doesn't start against the improving wobblies.

Plum
PlumCaptain22,055 posts
13 Sept 2026, 10:22
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13 Sept 2026, 10:22#10

For me…

Marx takes man of the series. I don’t think anybody else contributed as consistently. Hands down the best 2 SA has ever had.

As Moz says, Cam and MVB are clearly the new incumbents… so extremely clearly!

I know Cam didn’t have much game time, but bloody hell, he is a perfect rugby player. There are two games to watch… the match, and then Cam’s efficiency game. Again last night, probably because it’s become a habit now, I was watching Cam off the ball. He has efficiency down to a fine art. And that’s why he is able to contribute at such a high rate, because everything he does off the ball puts him in such excellent positions.

Now, tell me, if DDA was allowed to play like he did last night, would any of us ever complain? I know I wouldn’t. It’s quite sweet, after this series, to be able to say that the guy I have probably had the biggest issue with over the years actually went alright.

Arendse showed that he’s still right there with Kolbe. Hooker was again playing like he’s been there for 80 Tests. I’m sure he was a Test player in a past life because you can’t have this few Tests under your belt and be that cool.

Steph truly is a spent force at this point. I actually feel sorry for him because one can tell his body is done. And it’s no secret. I’ve watched a good few podcasts where guys who have recently played with him talk about him and say he’s a warrior, but he’s playing with a broken machine. It’s time he moves to the bench.

Eben continues to cement himself as probably the Bok most likely to be remembered a hundred years from now. He contributed at crucial times, and I felt he combined excellently with Nortje to keep the engine room ticking along.

Speaking about Nortje, he’ll barely get a mention, but slang man is doing the dirty work that nobody mentions. Much like Wiese, he’s come into the Boks and not really missed a beat. Mostert 2.0 is here and will be here for a good long time.

Sacha probably had his worst game in a Bok jersey and actually irritated me last night. Anybody who has ever played any sport knows that sometimes you’re on the field and you can feel that you’re off. And that’s not the time to be clever. It’s when you are meant to go back to basics, yet he tried a crazy cross-field 50/22 and then tried to eat the entire muffin in one go just before half-time… neither of them working out.

I was actually quite annoyed by his performance. That attempted touch-finder just before half-time was the most annoying. Why not aim just inside the AB 22 instead of aiming at the 5m line? Truly, that was hyper-annoying.

Aside from the series win, the good news is that there are more good players that the Boks can add to the ranks. A fit Ruan Venter, combining with Cam, is absolutely mouthwatering. Wessels is the guy I wanted to have more of a chance in this series, but I think we’ll see more of him now. He was a monster at the Bulls this year, and I can’t understand the selection of Fourie, but that experiment is probably over now.

Roos is still somewhere around and should come into the Boks, with a role created for him. You simply have to find a way to channel him because, no matter what anybody says, he is a dangerous player. Papier should also be coming in now, and if Mills can continue to rise, I think Rassie might start to look at him too.

I know that isn’t a Dave-length list, but the point is that we do have a strong first string and a lot of quality to bolster the second with. So it’s good news.

Where are NZ, though? As suspected, if not believed, Dickson was rather pedantic last night. He called some side entries, didn’t allow playing the ball on the ground, and actually penalised the ABs for holding on to Cam after the ruck. It showed that when a ref doesn’t get caught up in the action and simply allows the game to go on, rather than avoiding stopping play, the ABs really struggle.

They got away with a lot of stuff earlier in the series that I feel allowed them to be more competitive than they should have been.

So, Razor or Rennie? For me, Razor. He was building something and looking to balance out the AB game. Rennie has come in and their set piece is a bloody shambles. They are even worse under high balls, constantly being caught behind the gain line and then panicking, and his comments in the media have made the team less popular.

I honestly feel they should have stuck with Razor. How often do we see it? A new coach comes in, there are new vibes and inspiration, there is a strong start, and then it fizzles out and the side ends up in a worse position. I’m getting that feeling from these ABs.

Have they earned the right to play how they are playing? I don’t think they have. In Union, you have to create the platform, and theirs has been shaky, yet the mandate of run at all costs and from anywhere has remained. I feel that is probably rather shortsighted.

They seemed almost uninterested in playing any territory at all, and it boggles the mind as to why they wouldn’t try to balance out their game. I guess we’ll see where they go from here, but if that road doesn’t involve fixing their platform, then it will be a short one.

Not to pick on him for the sake of picking on him, but compare DMac to Willemse. Willemse remains in possession of some of the most balanced 15 play possible. He seems to understand exactly when it’s on and when to play territory and safety, and executes at a crazily high rate.

DMac seems clueless and simply thinks he was born to run absolutely everything. Under the high ball, it’s not even a contest. How many momentum winning high-ball takes do you remember DMac making in this series? Compare that to Willemse… starting to see what I mean?

It’s a gulf, and a microcosm of the difference between the sides.

The ABs will say they learned a lot during this series, but I'd like to know what they learned that they didn't already know. To me, every single one of their problems are the exact same problems that have had for a few years now. Problems that Razor was slowly sorting out, and problems that they now appear to have less of a handle on than before.

They've had had six big games this year. 4 against us and then France and Ireland. They've won 50% of those.

KI
kingcornPro3,861 posts
13 Sept 2026, 13:43
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13 Sept 2026, 13:43#11

Stats only tell one part of the story, if we had to compare the stats of the first test, one would swear we should have won 4 - 0, and actually, we should. NZ is not number 2, end of. They are just lucky they have a such a skilful backline with players that has been around for some time, but I don't think it will get better. The only up and coming players for them are Sititi, but he only played in the last test, then Love looks good, and Roigard, such a slippery and street smart player. Reminds me a bit of Justin Marshal, always use to get the rub of the green.

Yes, let's talk about Zulu boy, windgat until the very end. At the moment full back suits him more, but how many lives should he get? I'm happy with Pollard, Libbok and Quan Horn. We don't really need him.

Willemse frustrates me, our attack looked better when both Sasha and Willemse went off. Although, both add value, fantastic athletes, just their brain cells don't fire when they have hands on the ball. I am harsh on Wilemse, but I just don't think his game evolved, yes, he can kick, yes he is alert to back play. Looks to slow it down, find time, but when he joins the line it is a 50/50. Always exciting, but then you compare him to Arendse, he is just next level. He is the single reason why the bulls did so well and the only reason why they actually have line breaks. Willemse can learn a lot from Arendse, just knows how to accelerate into a gap.

Arendse after the last game is probably ahead of Kolbe. I'm worried for Kolbe, such a smart player, but he has lost that gas. In the 3rd test when he made an intercept, the season before he would be away, but this time he had to punt the ball and couldn't chase his own kicks. Also think he struggled in Japan, given that those players are very like him.

Peter Steph, interesting that Plum speaks of him and I have to agree. He is too big and struggle to stay on his feet, offers a soft shoulder and easy for players to step around him and looks like he has gone back to his old defensive self that he can't move lateral. But don't forget that he never played all season last year and was out for the entire domestic league, this is only his 8th game this season. If he had 20 matches under his belt I would ask questions.

But, all my moans are just to see if we can get more from this team. Although sure as hell much better than winning by 1 point.

Low point for me was the Scotland, Argie and first NZ game. Not sure who looks after defence, but I keep seeing the same mistake, no numbers, quick hands through the midfield and our wide defenders coming in, it is like school boy rugby mistakes. When we do get it right, we trap them behind the advantage line, but we need to learn when to drift and when to rush

MP
MpowerPro5,209 posts
13 Sept 2026, 14:31
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13 Sept 2026, 14:31#12

Congrats, Bokke, in taking the series 3 to 1!! We showed improvement throughout the series, and I think that comes down to our boys just playing with more ball in hand.

Subtle improvements in that area, which does point to Tony Brown having a bigger influence than originally thought.

Our pack is obviously brilliant. Ox, Marx, and Wilco are the best frontrow in the world, and Gerhard, JHW, and Thomas are a close second. Not to mention back up players like Zachary Porthen, Carlu Sadie, and Mchunu.

Our loose forwards are very good as well, with players like Stef, Kolisi, and Wiese just making their contributions game after game. Our Locks with Eben the enforcer and Nortje the "kannie Dood" are great. Cobus Wiese, like his brother, always makes an impact. I would love to see Ruben V Heerden, Adre' Smith, Reinhardt Ludwig, and Ruan Vermaak, joining the fold.

For me, PDV and Cameron Hanekom showed throughout the series that we are set for the future at openside and Eighthman. Cameron was excellent last night, and his ceiling is extremely high.

Morne vd Berg is surely our leading scrumhalf and should start as much as possible. Great game and deserved MOTM award.

I said it before, but Sacha desperately needs to learn how to play for the team. Very talented individual, but needs to direct his Backline.

He can't beat teams on his own. But, it's a matter of fine tuning, and he will be well set for the future. Yaqeen Ahmed, though, will be giving him an uphill battle for the 10 spot.

DDA has found a new breath and is playing some of his best rugby of his career. To think that some posters are so desperate to undermine him that they will go back 11 years to find mistakes is actually quite pathetic.

Jessica is also doing his thing, and it looks like these two are set to stay our incumbents at least until WC 27. Esterhuizen is another exceptional player who should feel unlucky that he couldn't start more for the Boks.

But his role of the bench is a very important one as he makes sure to close out the games strongly for us. Ethan Hooker is another brilliant find, and Kurtley is putting on the after burners.

Damian Willemse is as steady as ever at the back. So we need to keep on playing more with ball in hand and I think we need to get our defense back to Jacques Nienaber standard. We allowed too many soft tries.

The AB are very close to us. They have exceptional attack capabilities, and with a scrum coach like Mike Cron, they can improve that area of their game.

In Rennie, they have a master tactician that can take them forward. I thought their scrum stood better yesterday. They are pretty much in the same position as we were 8 years ago. They are in the rebuilding phase and can only get better from here on out.

Moolaa, I hope you are doing better, mate, and don't worry the mighty All Blacks will be back. Just look at the first test to see what happens when everything clicks. Here's to many more brilliant clashes between the two best rugby teams in the World!!

BE
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Beeno113 Sept 2026, 15:53

Great effort mamparapower. Cant really fault except for the words mighy all blacks. Being number 2 in the world is being back.
The real issue is can we maintain and even improve or will we decline when our world class players decline. Eg Marx, Eben etc. I don't think the wee abs produce the number of quality forwards we do. Our backs (and our forwards) due to the great players of colour and improved technique are getting better. I still think our biggest problem could be a replacement for Rassie. Hopefully we will strike gold again. If not things could unravel but we should always be top 5 or better.
Cheer up Moooo it could have been a lot worse if Bok handling of the ball had been better. Hahahahahahahahaha. You guys do though need to clean up your act, Entries from the side, tackling people without the ball beyond the ruck and of course please stop trying to depower the scrum and making absurd comments in public. Have a safe and great trip home we abs.

Deus Ex Lemur
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Deus Ex Lemur13 Sept 2026, 17:00

I think it's the other way around: the team needs to be constructed to support and exploit Sacha's talent, rather than expecting Sacha to continually compensate for the limitations of the system around him.

Sacha and Arendse in particular have too often been left to manufacture something from nothing. We have Morné van den Berg, Sacha, Esterhuizen and Willemse at our disposal, yet somehow we still struggle to generate coherent attacking movement. There is something seriously wrong with that picture.

Those are players you should be designing an attack around — quick service, multiple options, front-foot ball, players in motion and enough attacking shape to create indecision in the defence. Give Sacha and Esterhuizen those conditions and then judge what they can produce.

The frustrating thing is that the Boks possess enough talent to dominate international rugby for years to come. The question isn't whether we have the players. It's whether we're building a game capable of getting the best out of them.

DE
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Denny14 Sept 2026, 15:35

We allowed too many soft tries.
True. Strange one ......Boks were renowned for a stoic defence but throughout the series the Boks were exposed.

KI
kingcornPro3,861 posts
13 Sept 2026, 15:54
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13 Sept 2026, 15:54#13

Have to agree on Dud, how many times did he touch the ball yesterday. He also made some smart decisions. In the last he would just truck it up, now he goes for the should, curve and straighten and then off loads or pass to his outside backs. Finally doing a job he should have done for the past 10 seasons where he was just a glorified opensider pretending to be a back

CL
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clevermike13 Sept 2026, 15:00

KC

In a way the position of the site members have since 2018 been the same - De Allende is useless and must be replaced. That despite the fact that Pollard stated in the past that De Allende is the best 12 he ever played with and for years experts have rated him as the best 12 in the world.

The problem is that he is not a showpony - he does the hard work in defense and attack and in key matches he scored tries that had an impact that led to victories by the Springboks - examples in the Wales semifinal in 2019 RWC 2019 and the French quarterfinal in the 2023 RWC. The fact is he seems to score tries against the AB's as well on a rather regular basis. His other strong point is defense where in the RWC 2019 final in 2019 the commentator said he and Du Toit neutralized the English backline who in the semi got the better of the AB's.

The main site favorite at 12 was Esterhuizen. As far back as 2014 White moved him to blindside flank for the Sharks - but he failed badly. I am not surprised Erasmus rate him as a loosie and not as a center - in the 30 tests he played in he scored 5 tries - 2 when playing at center and 3 when he played as a loosie. Another problem is he has a pace-problem and his reading of the game makes him a rather questionable defender. I think Pollard rate him so highly in part because he covered his own defense problems so well.

The unfortunate part is we do not really have a replacement inside center - the best one is Willemse - but he is not the full project yet. There are some youngsters coming through - but in the main they need further development. ,

Deus Ex Lemur
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Deus Ex Lemur13 Sept 2026, 16:46

He has a high volume of touches without ever being particularly imposing. Regulation carries, regulation lateral passes — plenty of involvement, but very little that materially challenges the defence.

It's impressive by Damian's standards, perhaps, but it falls well short of what I expect from a competent Test 12, never mind one routinely spoken of as an all-time great.

In fact, it reminded me considerably of his performance against England on the 2018 End-of-Year Tour: busy enough on the stat sheet, but remarkably little genuine influence on the game. Activity and effectiveness are not the same thing.

Mozart
MozartCoach50,531 posts
13 Sept 2026, 17:15
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Lots of good comments there chaps. Plum I also have been thinking about NZ and the coach change. Razor’s ABs took the first test narrowly in NZ and then got blown away in the second. The team seemed to give up. Something wasn’t right with the ‘gees’. It reminded me of that wipe out the Boks had against Oz in 2006 when Jake was under fire and the team gave up….the only time I’ve sensed that from a Bok team.

But despite it being a close call we kept faith with Jake and we came back to win the WC. Rennie is a safe pair of hands, but he made many coaching mistakes in this series….notably his failure to dictate some territory play with the wind behind last week. He doesn’t seem creative….was there any tactical surprise from the ABs in this series.

The ABs also seem to have some selection issues. I never understood the obsession with Carter and it’s still not clear what their best front row is.. .but their scrum seemed better prepared yesterday. Mo’unga was ineffective and then Beauden came on and scored a clever individual try. And Vaa’i was better again at flank, with a bit more power in the tight 5 he could be NZ’s answer to the big Bok 7 choice. There is more talent there than we saw in the last 3 tests,

For me the big decision is about Jordie….fullback or center. McKenzie’s indecisiveness under the high ball really cost them. And Jordie did some clever things, but was unable to give NZ front foot ball. Oddly he reminds me of Dud Toit as a runner….straight, no step, no acceleration, no powere in contact. I would put him back at 15 and at least solve one problem.

Plum
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Plum13 Sept 2026, 19:21

Yeah, I think you're right about the gees thing under Razor.

It again brings up this farcical distinction between Test and franchise rugby. I mean I absolutely refuse to believe Razor could achieve what he did with his franchise side but then somehow not have the knowledge to replicate that at Test level.

I think Razor's plans were more than good enough for the test arena but the dominance hangover in NZ, both among players and fans, didn't allow his plans to show fruit.

When he took over they were, on some level, expecting something like "The All Blacks used to beat everyone always. Razor won 7 SR trophies. Razor + All Blacks = Dominance returns".

It really is a dominance hangover. An expectation. One that pays lip service to a different time and new players, but doesn't actually assimilate the idea of these being new players, under a new coach, in a game that has moved on and doesn't favour the type of rugby that reined during the dominant spell.

I remember after The Ozzies lost that first Ashes to England after many years of victories. Half the team had retired and the other half were aging. Immediately after that series they had a win, I can't remember who against, but an Ozzie mate of mine commented that "Normal service has returned." The very early but very clear dominance hangover.

It's probably slightly cruel to say that fans and players had taken those years of dominance for granted, but it is true to a degree.

The All Blacks and Kiwi fans are still inside that hangover. That's why they weren't satisfied with Robinson. That's why the "gees" struggled. His win record was far from bad. It was still one of the best in the world, but they want more. Apparently he wasn't hard nosed enough. Really? I'd like to know how a pushover takes a side to 7 SR trophies. They were simply looking for excuses to get rid of him because he didn't feed the hangover.

They expect more because they still have not assimilated the concept of different time and different players. Nobody transitions from best in the world to best in the world. It just doesn't happen. All the best team's players and coaches, and while not having to start at the bottom, have to make a new ascent. The thing that stifles that ascent and makes it take longer than it needs to is not truly accepting which rung of the ladder your ascent is to commence from. Often, that assimilation is never made and only the harsh reality of smashing into the floor truly resets things. The downside being that not only do you then end up starting from far lower than you needed to, but you also wasted plenty of time smacking your chin on every rung of the ladder in the way down.

And now, going strictly on the numbers, they have gotten worse than Razor. They unceremoniously booted him and brought in a new broom that swept a little cleaner at the start, at home where it was comfortable, but doesn't really look to have improved.

Keep in mind, that the Boks scraped past Robinson's All Black side in 2024 in JHB and Cape Town, and then beat us at Eden park...with Wellington being a blowout. There's only one result in those 4 games that was truly bad, and that was him coming up against a settled team with a settled coach.

I would not have gotten rid of him. You simply can't ignore 7 super rugby titles. You can't. The guy that did that proved that he could create a prolonged period of dominance in what was at the time one of the toughest comps in the world.

To me, they erred in sacking him. Just like they erred in kicking SA out of SR.

I would have given him 4 years and simply wanted to see progress. The tricky part being, what would progress look like when you're 2nd in the world? The next step is literally the end goal. So why not be happy to sit in second for a few years while Razor slowly prepares your side for a long dominant spell at the top?

Dominance hangover, that's why.

Mozart
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Mozart14 Sept 2026, 15:02

@Plum …dominance isn’t guaranteed and we now have resources we were ignoring back in the old days. Key players like Willemse, Arendse, Kolbe, Sacha, Ox wouldn’t have been there. We talk about our improved running game on Saturday but it was pretty much down to Arendse. Imagine what our running game would have been without him and in the other games, Kolbe

Deus Ex Lemur
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13 Sept 2026, 18:43
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13 Sept 2026, 18:43#15

The Boks made line breaks, certainly, but far too many simply resulted in the carrier becoming isolated. Collectively, I'd rate the attack about a 4/10.

New Zealand were vastly superior in the way they moved the ball, manipulated defenders and created space. At times it took little more than a simple screen pass for the All Blacks to become virtually invisible to the Bok defence.

The fundamental difference was platform. South Africa had the better one, and ultimately that gave them control of the game. But if the Boks could actually marry that platform to intelligent use of the ball, their superior strike runners would become exponentially more dangerous.

One Esterhuizen offload demonstrated more of what I want from a Test 12 than Damian showed throughout the series: engage the defence, recognise the opportunity and put somebody into space. Simple, effective rugby.

It's a good win and there is plenty to be pleased about, but I wouldn't confuse the result with a polished attacking performance. There remains an enormous amount to work on — which, considering the quality of ball and athletes available to this side, is as frustrating as it is encouraging.

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