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Started by rooinek33 REPLIES332 VIEWS· 18 Jun 2026, 11:34
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rooinek
Captain18,117 posts
18 Jun 2026, 11:34#1

Let's hear how the Trumpanzees try to spin this humiliating (and expensive) defeat into some kind of victory now that Bozo has Tacoed again and accepted a deal that gives everything to Iran.

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
18 Jun 2026, 13:10#2

In March he posted that there would be 'no deal with Iran except UNCONDITIONAL SURRENDER!'


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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
18 Jun 2026, 13:30#3

Seems like the fat has hit the fire.....the Fat I might add is Clown Trump.....

Scaramucci predicts intensified denial after Iran deal

Anthony Scaramucci, who briefly served as Trump's White House communications director, told The Daily Beast Podcast that Trump is set to enter 'five-stage denialism' after what he described as his biggest flop yet — the recently announced Iran deal. Scaramucci claimed Trump will 'triple down' on falsehoods to defend the agreement, which reportedly includes a $300 billion fund for Iran, and said that while denialism has long been a cornerstone of Trump’s public persona, it has now fully taken over. He suggested that in private, Trump recognises the deal as a disaster but will publicly distort the narrative.

You've heard of five-stage clingers? He's gonna go into five-stage denialism. And he's gonna triple down on this. And he's gonna start saying things to people that are absolutely not true.

Anthony Scaramucci,Former White House communications director


Conservative voices decry 'American surrender' to Iran

The Iran deal has provoked sharp criticism from within Trump's base, with MAGA-aligned commentators expressing anger over what they see as capitulation. Bulwark podcaster Tim Miller and 'Commentary' co-host John Podhoretz accused Trump of 'choking' and leaving America in a worse strategic position than before, while alleging corruption involving bribes to Trump’s associates. Erick Erickson called the agreement 'an American surrender', underscoring a rare moment of open revolt among pro-Trump media voices. Alternet


Critics link Iran outcome to broader governing pattern

Political writer Andrew Egger described a recurring four-step approach in Trump’s handling of major issues: announcing bold goals, dismissing underlying challenges, pursuing the first available idea, and ending with a high-profile failure. He cited examples from Trump’s second term, including his approach to the Iran conflict, where an initial aggressive strategy ultimately ended without achieving stated objectives. Egger argued that this cycle has played out repeatedly, creating political strain among supporters tasked with defending these outcomes.

Trump faces declining support and endorsement setbacks

Polling compiled by Civiqs and reported by Metro shows Trump’s approval ratings have dropped in every state since early 2025, with declines in states such as Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania that are key to national elections. In parallel, Politico reported that his endorsed candidates have recently lost high-profile Republican primaries in Georgia and Iowa, signalling reduced influence in shaping party outcomes. These developments have prompted concern among GOP figures about the party’s performance in upcoming contests.




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sharkbok
Captain20,097 posts
18 Jun 2026, 13:37#4

Their was mention of 300 billion of reparation to Iran.


Trump claims the Middle East countries will pay for this.

(These very same countries have got bombed due to having American bases that were used to launch attacks on Iran).


How can you offer a peace deal that mentions 300 billion paid by other countries, without their consent.

It is possible America will fund the money though the Middle east as investment status quo that will go to Iran.


Trump completely screwed up. That is the thing, when you centralist power like Trump, when the shit hits the fan, their is only one person to blame. Trump by passed Congress, or got lackeys in the Senate to back what ever he said.



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Mpower
Pro5,061 posts
18 Jun 2026, 13:46#5

You have to wonder, what was the use of all of this?


How much did this war cost America? How much did it cost Israel? Think of all the innocent lives lost. Think of all the children dead.


What did they actually achieve with this War? Is all Nuclear material gone? Is the Iranian Regime gone?


On top of the War cost, global economic losses, they have to additionally pay $300 billion for the reconstruction of Iran. Will only the US pay or will Isreal also pay there share?


If America and Israel thought there was such an imminent nuclear threat from Iran, wouldn't it have been better to just start negotiations before a war?


Maybe they thought if they attacked Iran now, Iran would be scared in the future. Scared to build anything, scared to challenge them again.


A show of power to threaten them for years to come. But if that was the plan, did it really work?


Look at what actually happened. Israel pushed the US into this war, but in the end Trump was more interested in ending the conflict than in regime change or destroying Iran's nuclear program.


That is not what he said at the start, but that is what happened. Israel's main alliances got weaker, especially with the US, which now looks like an unreliable partner.


Iran survived the war and came out stronger. They used the Strait of Hormuz to blackmail the world economy, and now they are negotiating a deal from a position of strength. The regime is still standing.


So what did all the death and destruction actually achieve, other than feeding Defence Companies money?

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
18 Jun 2026, 13:52#6

He's rewarded Iran for being a rogue state....this from the Clown who squawked that Iran would get no money in a deal.

Nobody takes him seriously, not Putin, Netanyahu, Xi, or Kim Jong Un.

He's got to go the sooner the better.

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
18 Jun 2026, 14:06#7

You have to wonder why Iran's nuclear capability is still on the negotiating table when Trump himself stated that Iran cannot have nuclear capability.

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liam holmes
Coach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2026, 14:10#8

Dumbness reigned supreme when the above members are involved. I read the comments amazing how stupid members can became based on issues they know fuck-all about. Best idea for them is to do what the the ultra -corrupt idiot did when h went on an arse-licking spree of the Ayatollah is concerned,

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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
18 Jun 2026, 14:17#9

Snore...

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Mpower
Pro5,061 posts
18 Jun 2026, 14:23#10

Well Uncle Mike, seeing as you are so well versed in politics, please explain to us in detail what the positive benefits are from the Iran Conflict?


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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
18 Jun 2026, 14:27#11

'I honestly don't know if it could be worse because if this war ends the way I fear it's going to. America is going to be in a strategically tactically and militarily worse position than it was under Biden and before Trump came back into power. That is to say, he made a choice to test America's resolve, America's ability to win war, to exert its will, to change the nature of the map, and he has choked, he has chickened out, he has bled himself dry, and better that we shouldn't have done it in the first place.'

John Podhoretz


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Denny
Captain12,893 posts
18 Jun 2026, 18:55#12

Well Uncle Mike, seeing as you are so well versed in politics, please explain to us in detail what the positive benefits are from the Iran Conflict?


Typical Mike, you won't get a response other than the usual garbage.

liam holmes
liam holmes
Coach57,555 posts
18 Jun 2026, 19:14#13

MPower


There are basically 3 major problems involving Iran that was a problem since the first Ayatollah gained power in Iran based on extreme rfadicalism of Islam.


Middle East Instability and even Africa


The fact is that there has been major terrorist attacks and civil wars as well IT is a fact that civil wars have been causing hundreds of thousands of people kiiled in wars in Syria, Lebanoon, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, Nigeria and even in Mozambique - even Souh Africans were murdered in attacks in the Cabo Delgado It led to fleeing of millions of people to Europe and the USA as well as other countries worldwide,


These civil wars were armed and findefd by the Iran regime and the rebels are .in fact controlled by the Ayatollah regime. In for instance Lebanon and Syria Iran had troops in Syria and Lebanon s well as Yemen. In for instance Syria Turkey got sick and tired of Iran created instability on its borders and organized and funded the ouster of the Bassad Regime and forced the withdrawal of the Iran army and Hezbollah from Syria,


The attack on Israel in October 2023 was organized and armed by Iran

Regime using Hamas and Hezbollah as terrorists to carry out the attacks,


A radiccal regime in Teheran endangers not only the Middle East - it imacted on Europe as well. That was one of he reasons why Teheran was attacked and the previous Aymatollah killed.


Nuclear threat


As far back as 1978 the then Ayatollah regime announced they are going to develop nuclear arms as well as missies to deliver such weapons.


Implementation of the process was not started until about 2010 when the Obama Regime started reducing pressure on he Iran Regime. By 2014 Obama said that an agreement has been reached for Iran not to continue with the uranium enrichment programs and the corrupt and incompetent Obama Regime paid Teheran $1.8 billion t compensate the regime,. It was a rotten agreement and was not even submitted to Congess for approval.


The agreement allowed for inspection of enrichment facilities by the IAEA head-quartered in Vienna and inspections did take place mostly visited sited where such activities existed, in the past, Knowing that they wre dealing with idiots they moved the enrichment facilities what they called army camps - some of them under-ground - where inspections were not allowed, By 2016 had double the amount erriched uranium they had in 2016.


The Obama agreement was so poor and deficient it was never submitted to Congress for approval. By 2018 Trump enforced te passing fo an act that resulted in freezing o/f money paid toIran in dollars for Iran exports, That was basically the only measure took by Trump at the time as to the nuclear arms issue, There were no progress made as to negotiations to stoop the enrichment program.


In Sptemnber 2019 Biden sent Kelly to Teheran to negotiate and agreement to help iden in the 2020 election. The result was a massive program of advertosement in the uSA media and internet as well In return Biden undertook to unfroze Iranian funds, Both sides adherd to the Agreement.


The problem a;l; along was that nuclear arms possession will ead to a new Iran empire, threatening not only the ME but also A Nuclear armed Iran led by Muslim radicals would endangr not only the M R 0 but he whole world, , . ,

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Mpower
Pro5,061 posts
18 Jun 2026, 19:44#14

Thanks uncle Mike, for the information.


What happened to the active negotiations in Geneva, in June 2025? The Israeli ambassador admitted that negotiations were making progress . He said Iran had agreed to stop enriching uranium, and that a deal "appeared really possible".


Why do you call the Obama deal "rotten"? Who says that negotiating with Trump and his gang is not like "dealing with idiots " ?


Why did Trump and Netanyahu proceed with the war in February 2026, even though the war was not approved by the UN? Also it was not declared through proper US constitutional channels.


The war started with the assassination of Iran's supreme leader. That was not self-defense, but a regime change dressed up as security.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
18 Jun 2026, 20:05#15

Iran declared war against America 4 November 1979 and has been actively waging terror against America and some other nations ever since... they've plotted assassinations against Trump and others on numerous occasions...must the USA wait for them to be successful in one of their ventures before doing something about their constant yapping?...and the UN is completely useless at preventing or ending conflict.

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DbDraad
Captain26,388 posts
18 Jun 2026, 20:06#16

"The war started with the assassination of Iran's supreme leader."


Removing the head of the snake.

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bobbok...
Captain10,129 posts
18 Jun 2026, 21:10#17

jj

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Mpower
Pro5,061 posts
18 Jun 2026, 21:23#18

DB, are you actually saying that because Iran declared war on 4 November 1979, that justifies Trump, the US, and Netanyahu and Israel attacking Iran now?


The same applies to the foiled assassination threats against Trump. They were stopped. What other terror acts, against America besides 911, has been on-going?


If that logic holds, then any perceived threat from decades ago, or foiled assassination threats, can justify a war at any time, even without a current threat.


DB, "removing the head of the snake" is not true. There is a new Supreme Leader. The Regime is still standing.


If a peace deal is possible now, why was a war necessary? What did the war actually achieve that diplomacy could not have achieved?

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Plum
Captain21,007 posts
18 Jun 2026, 23:17#19

"If a peace deal is possible now, why was a war necessary? What did the war actually achieve that diplomacy could not have achieved?"


Iran's ability to project power has been all but obliterated. Here'a a chat summary of what was destroyed.


Military bases and military sites: ~120–200+

Missile launch bases: 29+

Missile factories: 4+

Nuclear facilities: 3 major complexes

Drone factories: Multiple major facilities

Air-defense systems: Most of the national network

Radar installations: Dozens

Missile stockpile: ~? of arsenal destroyed

Naval vessels: 30–50+

Submarines: ~13

Major surface warships: 2–3

Command-and-control centers: Dozens

Ammunition depots and bunkers: Dozens

Military communications facilities: Dozens

IRGC facilities: Dozens

Military aircraft: Unknown; no reliable public estimate

Military leadership compounds and headquarters: Multiple major facilities



That's more than a dent in their ability to project power. It'll take a decades for them to get near to the strength they were.

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Stavanger1
Pro4,532 posts
18 Jun 2026, 23:44#20

Iran's ability to project power has been all but obliterated. Here'a a chat summary of what was destroyed.


So Iran's ability to project power by crippling the worlds economy has been obliterated has it?


The sources I've come across estimate can replenish its drone stocks in 6 months and between 1.5-3 years for its missile stocks. These along with their proxies where what was considers Iran's primary power projection capability before the war.


It's Airforce and Navy was never considered a serious threat or Iran's primary mean's of projecting power.

Iran's Nuclear facilities were not targeted in this war, hence can't really be used a rational to defend this war.


Radar and air defence systems are not power projection tools.


Now Iran did get a bloody nose in this war. But they have come out strategical the stronger of the two sides form the war.


What this war has done, is further entrenched an even more hard-line regime in Iran, it's demonstrated the easy at which Iran can close the Straits of Hormoz and the limits of American military power and they appear to be coming out of a deal that will make them far better off financially.


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